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[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Lol. Original title said UI. I meant AI. You all are cracking me up though.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think they're trying to train their UI.

[–] funkyb@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

can't tell if that's flippant or just uninformed. Reddit data was a significant component of the development of most big name LLMs.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Update your SQL mainframe with this, you slimy bit-flipper!"

[–] deaconblue@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Knew a lady with a trained chinchilla. Bet she could train your UI.

[–] inverimus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit has backups, so for AI training purposes I'm sure they can restore all the posts of everyone mass editing/deleting this month.

[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's like driving by a house and sticking my middle finger out the car window at them and then never coming back.

It was only a moment, it will never be seen by anyone it was intended for, but it felt good for me.

[–] Zaneak@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its people not used to thinking about backups on databases etc or that they can't be used. They can probably stand up a database instance preannoncement with an api infront of it for ai training. Hell probably even offer it as extra monetary option. We will sell you what preannouncement looks like, then you can use the access you pay us for currently to compare how people react against a negative action by a company.

*edit - it does impact people that would use like web scrapers vs api and also possibly google search results, so it probably does do something, just not necessarily the impact everyone might have when doing the mass deletes.

[–] DerpyPlayz18@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think this kind of stuff is legal in Europe

[–] dust_accelerator@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I might be a spiteful fucker, but I am going to wait for the API changes. Then use a VM based AutoGUI bot to randomly scramble stuff up, putting nice load on the site, all the while acting like a "real" person. Good luck restoring/countering that bitchboy spez!

Mwahahaha

[–] Bluefold@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went with explicitly mentioning my right to erasure under GDPR and how you can absolutely identify me via my account. Really interested if they undelete as I'll be complaining to the ICO.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Power to you, mate! Let's go get 'em!

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did mine too. i took this text from someone else's edited comment cause i liked it so much, added a line or two

[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] jernej__s@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Kill_joy I'm just waiting for my data export to come through (it's been over a week since I requested it), then I'll submit a GDPR deletion request – any other way of deleting only hides the data from the web, but it remains in their databases.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

We are tracking timelines on this here: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/50981/Reddit-Data-Retrieval-Request-timeline-thread

So far very few reports of folks actually getting anything.

[–] bananaspread@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request

Same, anyone reading here can do a GDPR data request using this link, but you should probably wait for the export to come through to delete your account:

This is supposedly expensive to compile, and they'll get hefty fines if they don't follow through.

[–] aaronbieber@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This isn't likely to stop Reddit themselves from monetizing the data for AI training purposes. Deletion is typically "logical" in these types of systems, meaning that it's "marked as deleted" but not actually deleted.

What it does affect is the ability for others to see the posts, which might be companies accessing the API for AI training purposes. At this point, we don't know whether this is a meaningful path that Reddit wants to go down. If it is, they could allow the API to return deleted posts and comments (theoretically).

[–] kargarocP4@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the question is, will this back-up my posts to a file as well?

[–] GrossGhost@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have the option to save everything to a text file. Power Delete Suite works very well.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Be careful. When I tried this it didn't quite work - I got a handful of comments, but a bunch were missing and the csv was obviously truncated. Others have reported similar results as well. See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/71867/Poll-Power-Delete-Suite-users-are-you-saving-your-content

I had another way of grabbing everything, see https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

[–] supermurs@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this worth doing if I'm someone who mainly commented on cat photos and skincareAddiction for the last 5 years?

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, if you're feeling vindictive then replacing ll your comments with essentially spam helps trash Reddit's search engine ranking for at least the pages you're comments are on.

[–] JustStarDust@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, have you found an alternative to skincare addiction here yet?

[–] Pixiedust@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I used Asianbeauty... Let me know if you find something similar!

[–] celerate@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard allegations that reddit was restoring deleted content to try and maintain the value of the site.

So far I just know it as hearsay though.

[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Deleted comments yes, edited no :)

[–] celerate@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still new to Lemmy. Is there a link to this power delete suite? I don't see one in the post.

I might as well try to delete my content. I don't plan on going back to Reddit as anything other than anonymous.

[–] Kill_joy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Welcome to the fediverse friend. Might take a week or two to figure out, and the bugs are still being sorted, but boy is it a nice change of scenery. And once the apps come it'll feel like home again.

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

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