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Siding with this cuck is never going to be the play. He wants to oust McCarthy but only to replace him with someone more extreme. Better to let these idiots keep having a gasoline fight than to pick the literal pedophile nazi caucus in some misguided attempt to resolve this issue.
Let the country see which side is consistently driving them off a cliff. Many won't care. But others will take notice.
….than to pick the literal pedophile nazi caucus
They already did that with house speaker Dennis Hastert (R ).
Pedophilia issues aside, the Neocon Republicans that put Hastert in power hardly resemble today’s quasi-fascist Republicans.
Won't this result in them kicking Mccarthy out, and then failing over and over and over to vote on someone new, utterly paralyzing themselves into a parapetic fit? Do they block government of they can't get a speaker voted in?
Well they would need to unify their entire party to get the votes needed and they've proven they can't do that. So whichever literal nazi they suggest won't even come close to getting the votes.
So certainly what could happen is mckkkarthy comes crawling to the democrats to try and get their vote which isn't happening without major concessions. He might succeed but best of luck when it comes time for reelection. They'll call him a traitor to their republican nazi cause and vote in someone twice as fascist and racist.
In either case the most important thing is we keep hammering home the truth. These people are traitors to this nation. They have consistently shown they cannot handle these positions of power and will outright try to overthrow democracy if they don't get their way. Don't let up on that message. Make sure all the rural fucks in Idaho and Ohio hear it. The message has to be louder then their closet pedophile uncle Carl's Facebook posts that suggest the opposite. It's not that hard.
I don’t think the Constitution requires the speaker to be a member of the House. Dems and a handful of reps could give it back to Paul Ryan.
Paul Ryan retired because he wasn't willing to deal with these maniacs in their first evolution - no way he comes back now. I'd support him over McCarthy for sure though.
Correct. I can think of worse people, like the current occupant of the seat.
Ryan wouldn’t be my choice, but beats hell out of anything the current crop of Rs could put up.
Paul Ryan sucks.
If Democrats were able to form a coalition with anyone, it would be Biden district Republicans. In that case, they should give the speakership to a Biden district Republican and focus on new house rules that make it easier for Democrats to operate under a coalition house.
I think Ole Marge tried to get trump as the speaker during the nonsense with McCarthy’s vote.
Why would they want Paul Ryan, he's an idiot
Dems could pick the speaker? How is that possible?
Speakership is voted on by House members, not party. A simple majority of votes is all it takes. If someone is absent, the amount of votes required goes down.
The Democrats are nearly half of the house, so if a few Republicans did not vote or joined the Democrats, their candidate would become Speaker. Because the Speaker can be anyone, not just a current House member, they could nominate not-McCarthy Paul Ryan and feasibly succeed. Ryan is likely not interested though.
Oh man, I thought it meant Pathfinder: Kingmaker
That was odd for a second
This is the best summary I could come up with:
With the clock ticking down toward a government shutdown, Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz approached a Democratic lawmaker on the House floor this week with a surprising pitch.
Gaetz, who has been threatening Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s speakership almost daily, explained that his rebellion is motivated by a desire to find new leadership that keeps their word, tells the truth, and adheres to regular order – a message that this Democrat described to CNN as “utterly reasonable.”
“There’s a number of us … that are prepared to take the next action we need to take,” said GOP Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, who is working with a bipartisan group of lawmakers to circumvent leadership if there is a stalemate in the House – a process known as a discharge petition.
The wheeling-and-dealing illustrates how Democrats are now caught in the crosshairs of the GOP’s ongoing civil war, which has catapulted Congress to the brink of a government shutdown.
For their part, Democratic leaders are counseling their members to avoid getting locked into a position over McCarthy’s speakership, not wanting to do anything proactively, knowing that a misstep could have major ramifications for the House and their party.
The speaker, they argue, has violated their trust by launching an impeachment inquiry and going back on an agreement he struck with the White House on spending levels.
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hey beavis… huh huh