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submitted 1 year ago by Lengsel@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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Why are the majority of peoppe so hostile to the 4060 Ti release? Is it only because of the price and people think it should only be $350?

I suspect the internet outrage is more about people either addicted to anger, or outrage for the sake of fitting in with other people's outrage. Similar to everybody's outrage of Ampere, 30 series unavailable, but now there's graphics cards and nothing is selling.

I'm interested to buy the 4070, but at 50% more money than the 4060 Ti but only 25 to 30% more performance than the 4060 Ti, the 4070 is not worth the money. Now I'm thinking to buy a regular 4060 and upgrade to 6000 or 60 series.

I only single play campaigns exclusively, zero multiplayer, and I don't buy games every year because not many games have a campaign I want to play over again. It's been maybe 40 years since I bought new, the free Epic games help.

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[–] MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I think the main issue is the price point. It's a good card; it's pushes fps, and it's got stable drivers that work with DX9.

But it's only marginally better than the 3060ti (10%), it's only has 8gb of VRAM (which is already starting to matter) on a memory bus that's only half as wide as it's predecessor, and it's has similar performance to the cheaper ($50+CAD at time of writing) 6700xt.

As for the 4070. If the 4060ti is a bad deal, the 4070 is atrocious.

The 4060ti is fine. But the price is a bitter dissapointment, and it seems to be part of a trend where Nvidea tests the limits of what the market will bear.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The price raised more than the performance you gain. It's pretty much a solidly bad deal at MSRP. It's also indicative of a poor attitude towards gamers wallets. NVIDIA has cleaned up during the crypto boom, and they're pricing products like that's the new norm.

[–] Lengsel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It could also be that with nVidia making billions from AI computing, it doesn't hurt them if graphics cards don't sell because they own the market anyways, it doesn't matter. If Radeon sales increase but they still make billions from the enterprise, it still doesn't matter. And Intel doesn't exist in that space.

Given that nVidia is a trillion dollar company even with Ada Lovelace not selling, the company is not being affected. Why sell an $800 card when they can sell a $5000 card?

Gamers need to accept that if gaming GPU's don't sell yet the company has billions of dollars coming in, they have no reason to listen or care about gamers. I strongly condemn nVidia's corporatist attitude, but gamers have to either pay nVidia prices or buy from a different company while nVidia continues to get richer without gamers.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It's simply barely an improvement over the 3060ti.

If you can get either one for the same price, the 4060ti is the better choice. If there's even a 10% price difference, the 3060ti is a better choice.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Probably just general anger over pricing as you mentioned. After conversion and tax, that’s $600CAD for a XX60 level card. I don’t follow this stuff intensely, but I hope people do continue their outrage and apathy towards Nvidia products. I’m sticking with my 2080 until something drastically changes, and if it doesn’t I’ll shift to my consoles.

[–] Nymphioxetine@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It’s really the price. If it was $299 it would be hailed as a god tier card for the money.

[–] Orvanis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's primarily because the 3060 TI performs as good (and better for several games) than the 4060 TI for cheaper. There is almost no good reason to buy the 4060 TI.