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[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“A name registered at birth remains on the NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages Register forever,” the spokesperson said. “Even if the name is formally changed.”

nice way to fuck your kid up for your 5 minutes of journalism fame there.....

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If the name is formally changed, who cares? It's their stupid register that is fucked up forever.

Plus, while it would be awkward as a kid, I could totally rock that name now that I am older.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

It'll come up every time you need official government documentation. Something like "Have you been known under other names?"

Getting married? It'll come up.
Need a police clearance for work? It'll come up.
Need a Working with Children check for work? It'll come up.
Getting a visa to work/travel overseas? It'll come up.

Yes, it can be explained away. But I can see this costing the kid jobs, at the very least. Some employers might ask the candidate to explain this, Others might just not bother.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an adult it would be the story everybody heard as I introduced myself, "my birth name was methamphetamine rules and I'm being 100% serious"

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It would be a hell of an I've breaker "tell us one thing we might not know about you"... "Well my legal name is methamphetamine rules"

[–] modesto_hagney@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Might turn into a Streetlamp Le Moose situation.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a great point, they could have at least chosen a ridiculous name that wasn't quite as life ruining.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Life ruining" is pretty extreme.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

X Æ A-12 would like a word...

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Potentially life ruining? Growing up with that name is likely to be traumatic. Finding a job or place to live is likely to be extra challenging. Etc. It's a burden being inflicted on them.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original comment was saying that in NSW, that even after a " name change", the original name at birth remains on specifically 3 documents:

Birth certificate

Death Certificate

Marriage Certificate

I think the implication the commenter was trying to make was that even with name change, you can't completely scrub your old name away.

If the parent LEAVES the name as-is, then yes, it's a SUPER shitty thing to do. But in the article, it makes it clear that the family is already getting the name changed.

So, of the 3 documents, the death certificate can't by definition ruin the kids life. And, how often do you need to show someone your birth certificate?

I took trading to become a wedding officiant, and in my jurisdiction it is also the case that legal name changes don't affect birth or wedding certificates... and we learned that it is bizarrely common for people to be unaware of their own name as per birth certificate. An odd spelling or a pet name that stuck. Bradly vs Brad. Etc. It's crazy that many people have never actually seen their own birth certificate.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it would make a hell of a wedding day conversation if you forgot to bring it up earlier

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you can't handle me at my Methemphetamine Rules, you don't deserve me at my Connor Jefferson.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Finding a job or place to live is likely to be extra challenging

What are you on about?

[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People might not take an applicant with such a name seriously, or think of them as unhinged for using it.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Drysdale said she would not yet reveal what her baby’s new name is yet.

It won't be named that forever.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was thinking of situations where you're required to use your legal name. I realize this is Australia and not the US so things probably work different than I expect.

[–] morry040@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

As soon as you legally change your name, it becomes your legal name. The only places where you would need to state that original name might be on something like a passport / visa / or tax return.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

They are already planning to change the child's name.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

life complicating might be more apt

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

transphobia: not even once

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what is this nsw register used for? why would it matter if their name is legally changed? who would see it, apart for maybe people running police checks and credit reports?

Also, please everybody reading this, go and watch the show they reference, What The FAQ (WTFAQ) on ABC iView. It's fantastic!

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

And then go watch/listen to PEP.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

I'm kind of astonished.

Why would she think the name "methamphetamine" is not in the public interest?

It seems absolutely absurd to me that she thought someone would see that and just go "nope, I'm gonna change that to john".

Obviously the agency would only choose a name in exceptional circumstances, like if mum died in childbirth and there were no surviving relatives or some such.

Also yeah, there's a bunch of processes which involve listing previous names. His birth certificate will have that name. Try applying for citizenship in UAE or South East Asia (unlikely as that may be). Or more to the point, don't use your kid in an experiment for work at all ever.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It’s a question many wanted answered by the ABC’s new show What the FAQ, says Kirsten Drysdale, a journalist at the public broadcaster.

She submitted his given name to New South Wales Births, Deaths and Marriages as “Methamphetamine Rules”.

They said they had strengthened the registry’s process in response to this “highly unusual event”, and would be working with the family to change the name.

She had reached out to the registry for answers to her show’s segment on what names can be legally given to a baby in Australia which will air on Wednesday.

The spokesperson for NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages said it “does not choose what name parents give a child”.

It also will not approve given names that are more than 50 characters, include symbols, or an official title or rank such as princess, Queen, or goddess.


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[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only slightly worse than techno mechanicus

Shit name for a kid, flawless name for the future Fabricator General.