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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Despite the fact that Anheuser-Busch almost immediately caved to the pressure—abandoning Mulvaney, sidelining the staff who oversaw her ad, rolling out new ads with football players, and sponsoring country music concerts—the boycott went on, as right-wing media gleefully tallied declining sales.

That's still the dumbest thing ever....

Normal people were pissed they doubled back so fast, and conservative media had already latched onto it, and they don't let go of a story like that.

And then they give conservative boycott all the credit for declining sales making conservative media keep talking about it.

Whoever over at Anneheiser Busch who decided to cave....

Is probably the dumbest executive in America, and that's saying a lot. They pissed off the majority of Americans for no fucking reason.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Bud: "We like LGBTQ+! Give us money!"

Bigots: "We hate them so now we hate you!"

Bud: "Wait! Come Back! We hate them too! You've always been our core demographic and we're strongly tied to whatever you want!"

LGBTQ+: "Oh, that's how it is, huh?"

Bigots: "Nope. Not buying your beer anymore. We've already decided we hate you. Our defining characteristic is stubborn hatred. We are defined by the grudges we nurture."

Regular people who don't like bigots: "Ew. Bigot beer."

Bud: "JUST TELL US HOW TO PANDER IN A WAY THAT GETS YOU TO BUY OUR WEAK AWFUL BEER!"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but his cultural relevance is from an era in which the word "poser" was in wider use than it is today. This is not a coincidence.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The pics came a month after a report found that the "Devil Without a Cause" singer…

Goddamn. Murdered in cold blood by listing his accomplishment lol

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Me: "Your beer tastes like piss."

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Just rename the beer, Budweiser. For some reason all of the hatred isn't even directed at annheiser Busch but just one named beer.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's all just branding and marketing from these companies. Teamsters job actions and gay bars boycotted Bud Light in the 70s to pressure them to change their hiring policies to be more inclusive. The company isn't going to tell that story. Instead they'll appropriate those virtues to morally brand their products. Anti-woke somehow manages to be even dumber, but it's still just branding so people can consume their morality.

It's like how Amazon created an ad to show off having someone in a wheelchair working a warehouse job, while actively trying to shut down that worker's ability to organize for better compensation and working conditions. Not to mention the issue of why a disabled man in his 60s has to work a warehouse job like that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed. They should not have caved; they should have given the corporate PR version of the middle finger to the crazy right.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These idiots are protesting Bud Light while billionaires are paying them less than a living wage.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This isn't a new thing either. After the Civil War, poor newly freed black people starting joining up with poor white people to demand better wages. They started to become an actual threat to The Powers That Be. (Read: Wealthy White Men.)

The reaction? The wealthy white men stoked racism (which was already there) and encouraged it to grow. This splintered the white-black alliance and hobbled their quest for more rights. Instead of a united front against the people actually making their lives miserable, poor white people attacked black people and black people had to defend themselves against poor white mobs.

[–] elshanerino@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup. Grifters making a buck off of bigots. Just wait for some bullshit moral panic to nucleate around a popular brand, and then market your own shitty version as the anti-woke alternative.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 21 points 1 year ago

Just wait for some bullshit moral panic to nucleate around a popular brand, and then market your own shitty version as the anti-woke alternative.

Why wait when they can simply manufacture that moral panic.

Vertical Integration

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

market your own shitty version as the anti-woke alternative.

And that "anti-woke" version will be made on the same lines, by the same people, in the same building, and the profits will go to the same people - but it has a different label and name so its all OK.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sick of the rabid right.

Normal people: you hate minorities? You're an asshole. Fuck you! ✓

This is cool because being a hateful bigot is wrong and hateful bigots should experience social shunning.

Rabid right: you don't hate the people we hate, fuck you! ×

This is wrong because being a hateful asshole is wrong and perpetuating hate is wrong.

They need to deal with the fact that LGBTQ+ people exist. Existing and appearing in ads and shit isn't "sHoViNG iT In OuR FaCEs" it is existing and being represented instead of white, cis, hetero always being overrepresented.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm cis/heterosexual and white (though white supremecists would argue against the latter since I'm also Jewish). It always amazes me how LGBTQ people existing is "they're shoving it in my face" when straight people existing isn't "you're shoving your heterosexuality in my face."

I can walk down the street holding my wife's hand and can kiss her and nobody thinks twice about it. If an LGBTQ couple does the same, though, they get the "shove it in my face" rhetoric. LGBTQ people should be able to do anything that straight people can do without being harassed for it.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Did you know it's still completely legal to have children participate in heterosexual weddings?

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering concepts like quality control and safety / health regulations are anathema to these guys, I will not be trying any "anti-vaccine protein bars" produced by one of these grifters.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Every time I hear about some alternate conservative version of a product that really doesn't need to have a political affiliation, it's subpar at best (like that coffee sold to people who are sexually attracted to their guns), actively dangerous at worst (raw milk). It's amazing. They really will shoot themselves in the foot (and give themselves food poisoning) just on the off chance that it might annoy a liberal.

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[–] root_beer@midwest.social 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

[shrug] Ehh, just more ways for these idiots to grift one another and fuck each other over even more.

And they accuse the left of dealing in identity politics.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If I didn't have these pesky morals, I could make so much money off of them. Just slap a "MAGA/AMERICA FIRST/PATRIOTISM" label on some product and claim that purchase of this product hurts liberals. Then, pull in the money until they catch on to the scheme.

After they finally catch on, you just launch the next product under a different name and grift more money from them.

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[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's all projection. All of it.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Veebs, that allows customers to scan supermarket barcodes to check a product’s “V Score” and find “brands with the best values alignment”; a whitelist of conservative companies put out by the right-wing CatholicVote;

Wait, that's sweet! I'm going to download that app to help me find brands that do support woke causes!

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't trust it to identify actual woke brands, if such a thing exists.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can we just stop having conservatives? They're stupid hateful people.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let me know a point in human history when Conservatives were not the worst of humanity?

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[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or does the parallel economy’s ethos of values-based brand identification evolve into endless splintering, with ever more niche ways to opt out?

While I think that the "parallel conservative economy" is doomed to fail, I could see this being a major contributer.

We're already seeing the splintering in politics. Candidates that are Republican darlings quickly turn into RINOs because they don't support the latest crazy conspiracy theory. Why would "right wing companies" be any different.

"Oh, you buy from Right Wing Beer because they don't donate to LGBTQ? Well, I only buy MAGA Beer because they contribute money to groups that want to ban LGBTQ books!"

"Oh, you only buy MAGA Beer? I buy QBeer - the only beer willing to contribute money to have all LGBTQ people rounded up."

"Oh, so your beer just wants to round them up?...."

The way the right is going, what's "right wing/MAGA" today is "woke" tomorrow and anyone on the right who doesn't keep up is a RINO (at best).

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus there's almost certain to be a factor in a brand's V-score that relates to whether or not they paid the app maker.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then some other ranking website will come along claiming to be the only REAL conservative company ranking site. MAGA companies will have to appease either V-score, the new site, or both. If they choose wrong, they'll be ditched as a "Fake MAGA company."

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[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right, it's religious splintering, just now in a very US way, with commercial consumer brands.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Bud Light’s other problem is that it sucks and is $2 more expensive than it has a right to be. Conservative boycotts usually go poorly because they’re being asked to sacrifice and that isn’t their thing. But you can grab basically any beer in the cooler and it’ll be tastier or cheaper than Bud Light. If you boycott The NFL, Disney, etc. you’re gonna have to stare at a wall in the other room because no one else is missing the next game or Star War because dad’s all riled up about nothing.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

They are just so very fragile.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Weren't the republicans recently complaining about boycotts? Didn't somewhere make it illegal to boycott Israel recently? I remember being puzzled about how you could make it illegal NOT to buy something.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

On one hand, fine. Let the chuds eat themselves. If they want to buy a dropshipped six pack of the same garbage for double the price then let them.

On the other hand they are just being manipulated by the ruling class just like us.

Very conflicted. I'll probably just forget about it and move on.

[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Naomi Klein just wrote a book about Naomi Wolf, and it talks about the mirror world and all this is so bat shit nuts. People are so easily grifted out of their money and their trust.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best part about this is that these companies and groups are usually trying to take advantage of people, so that just means the right wing is going to get fucked by themselves. Remember those Trump coins? The right wing is so stupid.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been so tempted to make and sell custom flags printed with pro-Biden/LGBTQ themes, then have pro-trump messaging printed on top using a water-soluble ink so that these idiots would hang the flags proudly like they always do........only to have the flags change completely the first time it rains hahaha. I'd love to see them frantically trying to pull down a flag in a rainstorm 😂

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I’d give money to that kickstarter.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine what it must be like to live everyday being this goddamn stupid and scared. Truly, I don't understand how they manage to get by in life. They would be pitiable if they weren't so hateful.

[–] KroninJ@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The real snowflake culture right there.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean this is all just really stupid

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[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

hot boycott summer

Hey that's pretty clever

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This story goes down some rabbit holes but it is a great read.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I figured these culture warriors would insist that ketchup is on their WALL.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

They tried Republican ketchup years ago and it fucking sucked

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