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Does anybody have suggestions for an online service that prints things like business cards, brochures, and pamphlets?

If not FOSS, I would like to find a company online that has principles that align with positive things like workers rights, locally owned, sustainable, etc.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

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[–] peregus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does anybody have suggestions for an online service that prints things like business cards, brochures, and pamphlets?

But...if it's a service, how can it be FOSS?

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I said FOSS friendly. Hellotux.com is a good example, they are a little family owned embroidery shop that uses only FOSS software to run their embroidery machine patterns.

They make merch for various FOSS projects and Linux distros.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link. They're even based in the European Union, so no extra fees (for me).

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, it seems that I didn't get the "friendly" part.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] peregus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The service may use a FOSS software, but the service itself can't be FOSS!

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] peregus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This?

  1. Remote Network Interaction; Use with the GNU General Public License.

Notwithstanding any other provision of this License, if you modify the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your version supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding Source of your version by providing access to the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge, through some standard or customary means of facilitating copying of software. This Corresponding Source shall include the Corresponding Source for any work covered by version 3 of the GNU General Public License that is incorporated pursuant to the following paragraph.

Notwithstanding any other provision of this License, you have permission to link or combine any covered work with a work licensed under version 3 of the GNU General Public License into a single combined work, and to convey the resulting work. The terms of this License will continue to apply to the part which is the covered work, but the work with which it is combined will remain governed by version 3 of the GNU General Public License.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup.

all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can't read just pieces of it.

If you modify the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your version supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding Source of your version by providing access to the Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge, through some standard or customary means of facilitating copying of software

A service can't be FOSS for definition since it's missing the last "S" Software! ...at least for my knowledge! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would the service not be using software though? I've just woken up so bare with me here (so I could just be seeing/interpreting this all wrong), but I thought the AGPL was somewhat(?) intended to be used for *aaS ("Something"-as-a-Service) types of deals. MongoDB for an example (though they do not use AGPL anymore AFAIK) is a service where they host managed Mongo databases for you - the AGPL part came in to play in regards to making the actual MongoDB server-side software source available.

Or I suppose using OP's post as an example, whatever software they're using to actually facilitate accepting online print jobs and dispatching it (and the various processes in between) to their printers potentially.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MongoDB for an example (though they do not use AGPL anymore AFAIK)

They switched to a custom license they call SSPL which is the AGPL/GPLv3 but with a modified sections 13 that attempts to extend viral copyleft even further.

(In my (unprofessional) opinion, it's a bad license but not unfree.)

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ah right, I remember now - that made quite a storm when they did that switch (as is usually the case when companies switch from a well-respected OSS license to something... not so respected).

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A company can use an AGPL software, but the company itself can't be AGPL. AGPL is a license for software (for my knowledge), so it can't be associated to a company or a service. A company could be "FOSS friendly" as the OP mentioned, but not FOSS.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you look for worker cooperatives?

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but didn't get any relevant results. There is a local printing worker coop near me, but they don't do the kind of printing that I am looking for, only zines and similar material.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure what a FOSS printing shop would entail, really.

There are union printing shops, though.