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[–] Electricorchestra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People will literally do anything but eat beans.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll at least help my conscience

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have a read of how Fetal Bovine Serum is produced.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't really fair, there's plenty of ways to make it without fetal bovine serum.

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the process of writing an article that will hopefully look into this in more detail, but from my experience working in a cultivated meat company currently, there are no alternatives that work as well as fbs. There is a company that has received around 15m usd of funding and we've tested their serum replacement, and it just doesn't work very well. So we are still using fbs. In certain applications, the concentration has to be as high as 20% in the media. Fortunately for their conscience, I don't think the scientists know the details of it's production, if they did, some would probably not come in to work anymore.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.greenqueen.com.hk/amp/upside-foods-acf-cell-media/

Did they just stop using their own product or what?

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, but I get the feeling I'm not gonna like it

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 1 points 1 year ago

A cow foetus is removed from it's slaughtered mother, then it's heart is punctured with a large needle and all of it's blood is sucked out.

[–] IrateKnight@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't understand the reluctance from a lot of people with this if it's the exact same as 'real' meat. Once the price drops down and is available in the UK I'd be interested in mostly opting for this since i've never been able to make the switch to vegan/veggie

[–] PlebsicleMcGee 1 points 1 year ago

https://youtu.be/V0zCf4Yup34

Relevant video about lab meat. Tldr it will not scale enough to make a difference.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see how it can be worse. "Energy to create the nutrients and maintain temperature for the cells" is something both the chicken and the lab have to spend. I'm happier to have a lab create meat from the cells up than farmers doing their best to create sacks of muscle that can't stand up with a poor little head poking out the top, "full-grown" and killed in six weeks. Both are working to be more efficient, but it doesn't look as good on a living being.

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 1 points 1 year ago

Neither system is good imo, that's why I think we should look at plant based meat alternatives instead, or just eat plants