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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does the last panel suggest it’s a trick? Wouldn’t it make more sense for the message to have originated from the now purged creators of the bots?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago

My interpretation is, they sent the message to prevent the creation of anything that could plausibly be a threat to them and ensure the success of their invasion

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least we got to live 100 years of true life in peace, that’s more than in our entire history :)

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'd take that deal.

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't this basically the premise to the "3 Body Problem"

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The San-Ti were more honest about it.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, sort of, they asked for help with their problem, then hamstrung Earth's progress by deceit so that they could make it over in time.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do not remember there being such a gap between book and show but at least in the book it's earth reaching out while the one good guy on Trisolaris tells them not to.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That does sound familiar; I think I read it eight years ago so my memory is very patchy (to the extent I used the show to cover what I thought happened!).

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

In which reguard?

The Trisolarians actively blocked humanities scientific progress in order to avoid further advancement during the 400 years it would take their fleet to get to Sol. Humanity didn't choose to slow down or even regress.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

If we get a signal from space telling us not to do something, we're gonna fucking do it.

Amused me greatly that the Romulans didn't see this coming. Okay, who am I kidding? I liked them before all that and seeing the flaw in their take multiple episodes before the big reveal kinda pissed me off.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's basically how the Tal Shiar duped themselves and their entire civilization.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only if you want to regard one of the worse NuTrek series as canon.

In TNG Data is known about in both the Klingon and Romulan empire, and throughout TNG the impression that Dr. Soong was a genius who's work is nearly impossible to replicate was really high. So the Romulan just couldn't make someone like Data.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're confusing active suppression for inability. The Romulans aren't idiots, nor short on genius, they're deluded at their core, to the point that their intelligence alone explains the long-term survival of their civilization. The Picard series didn't invent that about them, and the stable 8-star-star-system believed to have been created by super-tech in Romulan space is old lore as well.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except for the suppression. I'm not confusing the one with the other. I'm calling it NuTrek bullshit. The Romulans simply aren't able. The Federation has some of the brightest minds in the alpha quadrant, largely due to being such a diverse collection of ideas, and even the smartest minds in the Federation could not replicate the work of Dr. Soong without reverse engineering Data himself, something that was the key point of the episode Measure of a Man.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're talking about a people who changed the color of their blood and adopted a Conlang at inception. They also managed to craft a civilization that accomodated/compensated for the extremity of their emotions. You really have a bizarre take on what is or isn't possible for a species, simply because another one did it first. Calling some of the best Trek in decades Nu Trek/non-canon is revisionist non-sense.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You... You think the slop we have now is "the best Trek of the decade"? Well then, that tells me everything I need to know.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The worst thing "NuTrek" did was give us villains (cHaNgElInGs) who were unironically more interesting and relatable than the Federation, right up until their ... ally.

Other than that, Trek has always been more about enjoyment than substance, save for some arcs of Deep Space Nine.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No substance? The entire series must've flown right over your head. No wonder you like the uintelligent crap we have now. It's made for people exactly like you.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which Series are you claiming flew over my head? The original series was far more serious in tone than TNG, and I re-watch all of TNG and DS9 almost yearly. Have you ever even read any of the books?

Between the two of us, I'm not the one dismissing new experiences, new takes, and previous lore out-of-hand.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, you're absolutely right, I'm dismissing these "new experiences" for the complete trash they are. If you're so easily amused by a dangling keychain that's good on you, but don't assume to drag us all down with you.