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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 week ago

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 30 points 1 week ago (8 children)
[–] quant@leminal.space 16 points 1 week ago

By extension, anything that's not self hosted means 3rd party actors snooping. American, Chinese, whoever happens to operate that machine.

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[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not surprised at all why would I? Don't act like other AI services is privacy focused. It's all same. THEY ALL COLLECT DATA.

But good thing about is deepseek is you can run locally unlike Closed AI Chat GPT. No need to use shitty app.

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

I'm safer knowing that my data is safe at home.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

Oh my, just wait until you learn what Facebook and Google do...

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

as opposed to OpenAI which also stores keystrokes and then sells them to anyone who'd pay?

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When you don't understand how a web app works. 🤦

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[–] tht@social.pwned.page 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US and the west: .... Spying is not acceptable! .... except if our companies are doing it

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 17 points 1 week ago

Bootlickers downvoting

When my daddy abuses me that's love 🤡

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

They should store the data in US servers like OpenAI does. Apparently then Mashable won't write an article about it.

The criticism thrown at DeepSeek in the past days is just as applicable to American AI models. But when that was brought up it in the past it was "making things political".

At least I can run DeepSeek locally.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doubtful, since it's both open source and you can run it locally. This seems more like a smear piece.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This article is about the app, which does not run the model locally. Why would you doubt that a Chinese app which openly claims they send your data to China, actually does so?

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago

Yes, I’m going to be lectured on privacy by people who are still on twitter.

[–] Azenis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Did they become american company?

Well, at least models are downloadable.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Ok, so they'll ban it under that guise to appease US companys, same as TikTok. I really didn't care about TikTok since it's all brain rot to me but this might actually be a tool I'll use if it's as efficient as they say.

Good thing I can run it locally, I guess.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

DeepSeek's privacy policy raises concerns about a U.S. foreign adversary's ability to access U.S. user data. Users are familiar with the massive amounts of data U.S. tech companies collect, but China's cybersecurity laws make it much easier for the government to demand data from its tech companies. Additionally, DeepSeek users have reported instances of censorship, when it comes to criticizing the Chinese government or asking about Tiananmen Square.

Users have been shown that both governments are untrustworthy so what the fuck are we supposed to do?

Am I supposed to not read this article as panic? I know this is Mashable but the media overall is no longer unbiased and now there’s gonna be more gremlins to watch for in pro-US corpo AI propaganda and media ownership having stakes in AI.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Well, only one of those governments can actually do anything to me. Hint: it's the one I live under

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Assuming that DeepSeek really is logging keystrokes (they provided no evidence: who were they quoting?), that is unfortunately not uncommon. As shown by their TikTok pearl clutching, corporate media regularly goes for maximalist cold war fearmongering.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 19 points 1 week ago (11 children)

(they provided no evidence: who were they quoting?)

https://platform.deepseek.com/downloads/DeepSeek%20Privacy%20Policy.html

Ctrl-F "rhythm"

I've noticed that this "there is no proof!" or "where's the evidence?" all of a sudden has become popular. You have people saying it even when they're talking about a very specific statement of a fact that's very specifically and easily verifiable.

that is unfortunately not uncommon

Completely true. A lot of web sites monitor everything you do on them, and can play it back for anyone who's curious about optimizing the UX or for any other less innocent reason. Generally I think there's not much specific in their privacy policy about it when they do. It's not surprising that this one is also doing that, accompanied by really a pretty minor line in their privacy policy to go along with it, I completely agree with you here.

As shown by their TikTok pearl clutching, corporate media regularly goes for maximalist cold war fearmongering.

Personally, I wish the corporate media would pearl-clutch a little bit more about how explicitly malicious to our interests our computing devices have become. "Everyone does it, so it's not a big deal after all" is a common take to have, but it's the exact opposite of the one that I personally have on it.

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