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Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago
[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Me: Oh boy, I can't wait to see what my favorite thinkers of the EA movement will come up with this week :)

Text from Geoff: "Morally stigmatize AI developers so they considered as socially repulsive as Nazi pedophiles. A mass campaign of moral stigmatization would be more effective than any amount of regulation. "

Another rationalist W: don't gather empirical evidence that AI will soon usurp / exterminate humanity. Instead as the chief authorities of morality, engage in societal blackmail to anyone who's ever heard the words TensorFlow.

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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They're probably talking about Ziz's group. The double homicide in Pennsylvania is likely the murder of Jamie Zajko's parents referenced in this LW post, and the Vallejo county homicide is the landlord they had a fatal altercation with and who was killed recently.

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[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

excuse me, what the fuck is this

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Either Baader-Meinhoff or Manson family, not sure which.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also Andy Ngo has now picked this up and its being spun as a purely trans terror cell thing.

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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I’m not going to link Andy Ngo but random rationalist transwomen are being accused of terror sympathy…and Aella is doing this ‘leopards ate my face’ dance.

edit: it was @jessi_cata who tipped Ngo off of all people.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i don't think it's the first time i see jessicata acting like a total piece of shit in her completely emotionless way and it's incredibly creepy. she doesn't even seem to be aware of the harm she can cause.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

I was kinda picking up on that ugh.

Ngo is going on Newsmax tonight to do his thing in front of the masses.

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[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No less than Mr Acausal Robot God casually dismissing the lives of +1B humans

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago

"The world is finite and kids are infinite, especially African kids." Jfc. Anyway goes to show just how white supremacist the whole "save the children" idea is.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

I know the only intended message there is "I am a big racist", but what kind of dumb fuck adage is "the word is finite, kids are infinite". You're not even trying mother fucker

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

Spotted in the Wild:

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Today on highlighting random rat posts from ACX:

poster thinks the future of llm training is contingent on focusing early on philosophical and theological text because they match the causality of human experience

(Current first post on today's SSC open thread)

On slightly more relevant news the main post is scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication so he can pitch an op-ed by a notable ex-OpenAI researcher that will be ghost-written by him (meaning siskind) on the subject of how they (the ex researcher) opened a forecast market that predicts ASI by the end of Trump's term, so be on the lookout for that when it materializes I guess.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

Does scoot actually know how computers work? Asking for a friend.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kelsey Piper bluechecks thusly:

James Damore was egregiously wronged.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Wow, the story is so much more troubling when you lie about it!

[–] yellowcake@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is from 2023 but when debugging an xfce issue this week I came across this forum post: https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=16835

The user is competent enough to use xfce with Debian, but too incompetent to understand debug symbols is not a violation of privacy.

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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

People have worked out how to cram DeepSeek onto a Raspberry Pi

Anyways, here's a quasi-related sidenote:

Part of me suspects DeepSeek is gonna quickly carve out a good chunk of the market for itself - for SaaS services looking for spicy autocomplete or a slop generator to bolt on to their products, DeepSeek's high efficiency gives them a way to do it that doesn't immediately blow a massive hole in their finances.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder how much % of the freakout over Deepseek is AI doomers realizing the coming AI god might be ... ChiCom!

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is it a crime to enjoy a succulent Chinese AI?

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