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https://lemmy.nz/post/18610200/13255360

This user describes how most of the women-centered communities on Lemmy were shut down due to harassment of their members.

Another user adds "We need a safe space, but most of the women I know on here don’t have the time or energy to moderate it. And there’s so few of us, it feels like it’s not worth the effort anyway."

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[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Keep in mind that this is probably very instance dependend. I use Beehaw which generally does not tolerate this sort of thing and this expectation is stated very clearly. For us down voting is not even possible. We also do not federate with nodes that cause the biggest issues. So there are things that can be done but it is not perfect and has consequences.

Just mentioning.

Edit: Even with that, there has been discussion of Beehaw leaving the threadiverse due to these issues and lack of mature moderation tools. Not sure where that stands.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Back when I used Reddit, one of my favorite subs was TrollX. If we had a sub with that spirit, it would be a good start.

Are there secret communities on Lemmy? Not that secret communities should be a default, but I was invited to a secret sub on Reddit years ago that was all women. It was a true safe space from harrassment, where we could talk about feminine things that we knew wouldn’t gain traction in main subs. I have no idea how it started, but I knew that users who were invited to join had previously been vetted by the sub’s mods - they saw that I’d made feminist posts and multiple comments about being a woman, and didn’t go around picking fights. It was like a background check.

I don’t believe there is any one solution, but starting with dedicated communities (in the spirit of TrollX), with mods that smack down misogyny and (actual) trolls, sounds like the best way to start.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's get away from the "X chromosome" bit now that we're not stuck with Reddit's bad names

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It doesn’t need to be called the same thing.

I’m also not sure if it matters, but Troll X and Two X Chromosomes were very different subs. Troll X was more of a spin-off, and was never strictly for XX women - it was trans-inclusive by default. That’s what I’m hoping for here too.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was on trollx and it was a nice community. A community with a name derived from two X chromosomes will never be fully trans inclusive though.

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[–] wingsfortheirsmiles 16 points 1 week ago

Is there anything others can do to help? Feddit.uk wouldn't tolerate this but I'm not sure what a regular user can do apart from look out for harassment, call it out and report promptly

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems to be one of the problems where Lemmy feeling a bit like old Reddit is really, really bad. Remembering from back then, it took many years of concerted effort and dedicated subreddits attacking sexism (that were in turn harassed and hated on by the "mainstream" Reddit audience, like SRS for example) to slowly change the culture. And it's not like Reddit is some sort of safe haven even now.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In Mastodon, this is typically solved with defederation, block lists, and admins enforcing mod policies. How come this approach doesn't work for Lemmy? Is it not decentralized enough?

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 week ago

You don't need to ask anyone's permission to create a Lemmy community.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf, i wouldn't recommend Lemmy to anyone i know either for more reasons including this

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I think it's much better then literally anywhere else on the internet. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but unfortunately everywhere else is worse. As such, I'm not sure whaz the solution is for Lemmy in particular.

Everywhere where it seems "better" is just moderation making it seem like that.

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[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

And this I why I don't either

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