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As you may know, I moved to using my blahaj.zone account almost exclusively, as I kinda disliked the vibe I was getting from .world. At the same time, I also want to gage the feelings people have about the migration. Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world? Are you happy with the change? I want to hear from you:
I do not get the rational behind it, i get what they said, but it doesn’t clear anything up because it’s so vague.
I’m not convinced of the necessity of the move and I’m not really attached in anyway to the mod team, not saying I don’t appreciate the work they’ve done, I just have no strong attachment to them being in charge of moderation, so why would I pick up and fallow them? There’s another 196 on here now so no reason to go fallow them to .world.
Also, I’m hesitant to see large communities get concentrated on .world, it’s already large and making it larger seems risky, like putting too many eggs in one basket. If something happens to it and a lot of important communities are based there, then that kind of puts a huge gaping hole in lemmy as a whole. Better to have things distributed more evenly across other instances for the sake of resiliency.
Already blocked lemmy.world's 196. Sad to see Moss make 196 jump ship, but if what's important to Moss is visibility to as many instances as possible at the expense of user experience, then I don't think we need that community here anyway. We can always revive ours, or make a new one c:
!onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Tbh this just led to me instance blocking .world and .ml. Thinking about how the move made realize how pretty much every bad interaction I've had on the fediverse was in those two instances.
The issue is that there are still a lot of blahaj.zone regulars with .world accounts. I only switched over recently. There are also good communities like !wlwmemes@lemmy.world and !shirtsthatgohard@lemmy.world
Still see users from those instances on ones I don't have filtered, afaik
i’ll continue to browse the one here, and i’ll refuse to put foot on l.w. That’s an incredibly wrong move.
You know whats interesting with all this is while Ada is getting brought up a lot in contrast to the 196 mods, I actually think there's a mod on fedi that gives an example of how to handle this kind of thing better. Db0 is not perfect per se because no one is, but I can't think of a more transparent mod off the top of my head (though Beehaws has defederated a few larger instances where they may be). When he(?) wants to do something he just asks his users how they feel. He writes a lot of blogs about whats happening in his community and since he has a hand developing some of Lemmy's tech hes sure to let you know if a user-affecting change is coming. He's not perfect but he's got what I would dub integrity. This might be putting it on thick but I myself have modded a very small (low dozens) community and I've felt the burn of a lack of communication that moss is feeling now and its avoidable. Db0 does get into trouble with his users, but clearly he's actually in it for them.
Db0 and I got into a personal disagreement that was vaguely related to the instance I’m on (theirs) and with other mods/admins it probably would of led to me immediately being kicked out rather than just an agree to disagree resolution.
I’m happy on that instance so far. Much better than world.
I am in the process of switching my account from world to blahaj. So I'm not particularly happy about this change.
I'll use the new 196 as a passive viewer, but I'm unlikely to post or comment after this change.
all in all it doesn't really matter, I don't think. Nothing much will change. I just really loved that fact that there was a popular community not on .world. I liked it being spread out.
I feel like less might've changed if it had been another instance AND the community was given a heads up. It does seem like the mods really are willing to tolerate more than Ada, which would change things more gradually.
big sad feels ;(
i will not join the 196 on the not blahaj zone! GRRRR >:3
i wan the 196 to be all local and comfy. i wan it to feel like home, with all u cuties and non-cuties-but-still-amazing-peeps in it!
i don wan the 196 to be on generic world instance. will join if there be a local 196 blahaj version!
imagine the COMFY FEELS knowing that U PEEPS made the funi im looking at!! <3
How do I feel about? I fucking hate it. The last thing that any of the Fediverse needs is more centralization. @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone should take immediate action and demod those that are leaving. The fact is that with the current subscribers count, if a new mod team is installed, there could be no chance of the .world community ever gaining traction. I am willing to spearhead this, but I will need help.
well, Ada just kicking them out for wanting to leave would also be a very bad move XP
tho I guess we should ask Ada if we can assign new mods to the 196 blahaj community since basically they've abandoned it and there's no reason to keep it locked, but making a new one would be fine too
It’s kinda don’t let the door hit you on the way out kind of vibes if I were in Ada’s shoes.
I don’t see why they can’t just start a new knock off 196 on world and leave the original alone and let someone else mod it.
cuz then no one would use it, and they didnt tell anyone cuz "if I asked u would have said no" so they just did it and hoped people would just be pissy for a day and then be fine with it :P
I’m this close to blocking world at the instance level and I know many others on lemmy are as well. They’re fucking stupid and selfish self important mods. Peak Reddit behavior.
yeh same, and the stupidest comments I see on lemmy r like 90% of the time from .world XP
I imagine ada would not try and force the mods of 196 to stay or anything, if the mods of 196 think blahaj.zone isn't a good fit for them then they have every right to leave our community, however I think it's clear the community does not agree with the mods and think 196 is a net positive for blahaj.zone, so reclaiming 196 is a potential option, but in the interest of being amicable and not cause tensions with those who wish to leave peacefully, maybe making a new community on blahaj.zone would be better? possibly a 197?
yeh I said the same on another comment in this post X3 would u also be a mod if that was done? cuz thatd make 4 of us so far from what Ive seen :3 would be nice to have 8 like the old mod team I guess
I am interested, dm me or hit me up on matrix there's info in my about me
seems like someone was a few minutes faster to make the community lol X3 I pinged u on the new 196 :3
I am also up for moderating!
someone else made a new community! I pinged u there :3
What happened? I though it was a good place and also I don't .world is fit for 196.
Same here - if anyone has a breakdown of what these 'moderatorial and ideological differences' are that are part of how this is being justified, that would be awesome.
Hell, even just examples of where the clashes were would help me out a lot.
Edit: To those seeing this comment who are also out of the loop, recommend starting here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713
It makes me so sad, and the bottom image is an accurate representation of how I feel about it. It sucks that they made this decision without involving the community at all, and even though they say they're on good terms with Ada, some of the comment chains in the announcement post make me think that there's some bitterness on the mods' part. Ada has always been so nice and patient, even when 196 clogged up Blahaj's entire frontpage, or when it didn't have enough mods to handle a growing community. And if the mods don't like how an instance is run, what gives them the right to just take the entire community and move it somewhere else?
I came to Lemmy when Reddit committed to their API nonsense, and it always had this promise of being better than Reddit. Decentralisation was a big part of that promise. Moving 196 to the largest (I think?) Lemmy instance is the opposite of that. Blahaj feels small, local, cosy, and welcoming, like small concerts in some guy's basement. 196 always had the same vibes, and the move to .world will probably change that. That scares me because I really liked these vibes.
idk, I'm just rambling and none of it makes a whole lot of sense. I think I'll take a break for a few days, wait for whatever is gonna happen next, check out the new 196 on .world in a while, and maybe the old 196 is gonna come back somehow.
If they had involved the community from the start, I would've been fine with it (tho I heavy dislike .world). Then again, it would not have happened, had they put it to a poll.
The way it happened now, they've lost most of my trust and all of my goodwill. I'll not move. I hope we get the local 196 unlocked under new management, or otherwise we might have to create a new one.
like u said on another comment, Id also be willing to mod a new 196 but not spearhead it :3 (and thanks for teaching me a new word X3) and I think a new 196 on blahaj is the best option, either that or the old 196 comes back along with the old mods (which doesnt seem like they will anyway) and I already didnt like them but now I dont trust them at all, maybe it could be called 197 like back in Reddit X3 or just '196 Blahaj' to differentiate it from other 196s in other instances
The X3s are confusing. Is that a person, times 3, or an emoticon I don’t recognize???
yeh its just 'XD' but with the ':3' kitty mouth, which people stopped using in like 2012 but Im still obsessed with it X3
I noticed they were somewhat unwilling to/incapable of removing comments that were mildly transphobic a while ago so while I'm disappointed that they are gutting 196 instead of new mods being introduced I'm not surprised.
I guess the positive side to this is I will be much more productive at work without 196.
I unfollowed every .world community I was previously following, then blocked .world entirely during the pre-backtrack period of their "we wanna do what Facebook is doing" announcement. I did unblock it later, but I'm not following anything on that instance, including 196. I don't believe what Moss and all them said about their talk with the lemmy world admins, I think eventually when they try again with the moderation change, they'll enforce it on 196 anyway, despite promising to let them moderate with their own rules. I also don't like that instance having the most content, which is just going to balloon up even more with 196's memes, since it starts going against the whole point of the fediverse, the decentralization aspect. If people start saying "well Lemmy world has the 'best admins' and the most communities so why make this community on another instance?", that's gonna have an effect, you know?
I just feel disheartened.
That was Reddit aah behavior by mods.