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"The cost of running the hallucination machine is too expensive so instead of charging people who want to use it, we have instead decided to charge everyone who uses any of our services even if they don't want to use the hallucination machine"

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 45 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Wait, they think people want Copilot? Like enough to pay money for it?

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 30 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They are banking on customers being too invested in office to switch.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think that might be their plan for all their products at this point. Just existing though inertia.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Copilot Is literally ChatGPT With a diff logo and name.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use both for work, copilot is worse.

[–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

It's "ENTERPRISE"

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[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

For anyone who doesn't already know the good FOSS alternatives:

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

additionally Onlyoffice (But Onlyoffice isnt fully open source)

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

OnlyOffice, you say?

😏

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There are home users of Microsoft 365?

I'm not shaming but I kinda am. Like WTF is wrong with you? You pay for free shit.

Office employees don't get to choose.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Actually I have admin access to my work laptop, so while my employer pays for what ever the fuck they pay for I frequently use FOSS instead.

I do it to make a point.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

They bundle it in laptop purchases. M$ dominate because of the b2b stitch up.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Wow Lotta folks gonna discover that LibreOffice is much better than MS Office. Not to mention, free.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

COPILOT IS NOW A PAID FEATURE?????? hell nah, microsoft be banking on their users.

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[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So I've never used Microsoft office because I could never afford it. I went from notepad to wordpad to OpenOffice to libreoffice. I've never had a single issue even as a professional not using word. I actually really enjoy writing as a hobby and I just don't get this copiolet thing. Why would I want something to do the thing I like doing? Screw that.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For professional settings, I understand the theoretical appeal of ai writing. A lot of people don't like writing emails, but they have to for work. Many of those same people fret about tone or presentation, because silly office politics reasons (real or one-sidedly imagined in their heads.)

The solution, really is workplaces just need to cut down on the useless drivel emails and people need to be ok with short, no frills emails.

[–] Jrockwar 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There are tons more applications in the workplace. For example, one of the people in my team is dyslexic and sometimes needs to write reports that are a few pages long. For him, having the super-autocorrect tidy up his grammar makes a big difference.

Sometimes I have a list of say 200 software changes that would be a pain to summarise, but where it's intuitively easy for me to know if a summary is right. For something like a changelog I can roll the dice with the hallucination machine until I get a correct summary, then tidy it up. That takes less than a tenth of the time than writing it myself.

Sometimes writing is necessary and there's no way to cut down the drivel unfortunately. Talking about professional settings of course - having the Large Autocorrect writing a blog post or a poem for you is a total misuse of the tool in my opinion.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Preaching to the choir here but LibreOffice has been excellent since my MSOffice license expired. Unless you're working in an enterprise setting with MS-specific macros or online collaboration, there's no reason to be paying for basic document editing software in 2025.

There are also self-hosted and open-sourced collaborative editing suites available that I haven't tried yet, but there are plenty of options

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fun story, it's called office 365 as when you see the price you'll turn 365 degrees and walk away.

Ok that doesn't really work but God I love that stupid joke.

Anyway I haven't used office personally for ages and never seem to run into real compatibility issues with the meager personal/business overlap in my situation.

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It made me chuckle a little imaging that you do a full 365 degree spin Infront of Microsoft and then walk away (in an awkward way), instead of 180 degrees to walk the opposite direction haha

[–] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Technically speaking with 365* of rotation if you are far enough away you will be able to walk past microsoft, so this is possible.

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[–] xuv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

At the right distance it's just enough pivot to give them a spiteful shoulder check on the way out.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

365 spin, then realizing your mistake and awkwardly walking backwards out of the room

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[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

worlds most over glorified over priced office website that runs like a slug

[–] trk@aussie.zone 26 points 3 days ago

I'm so glad I work in an industry where I can get away with using Libre Office.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 148 points 4 days ago (13 children)

I spent about 20 minutes today trying to get Copilot on Word to tell me how to disable Copilot on Word. Worth every penny.

[–] vaderaj@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago

The clippy we all deserved

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 26 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I use ms office 2007 it runs perfectly in wine and still has the cool version of wordart

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 97 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Meanwhile, smart people: I sure do love Libre Office.

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

Subscriptions like these have always been a scam.

[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For existing customers, the price hike won't be kicking in until plan renewal, and there are options to downgrade the plan. Those who want to avoid using AI can downgrade the plan to the "Classic" or "Basic" Microsoft 365 plans.

Thankfully we can roll back to the "Classic Family Plan" without the AI features. But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back. If I didn't see this article I'd be up for a big price hike when it renewed.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back.

Should be illegal.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Everyone experiencing this should be thinking "man, I gotta ditch Microsoft before they try to fuck me again"

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Oh shit maybe we'll see someone companies switch to an alternative instead of paying microshit more money

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[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 72 points 4 days ago (4 children)

You can call the sales team and ask them to change your subscription to the classic version to opt-out of Copilot and get the old price back, if you still need the subscription over changing to other open source office suites.

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"You remember that llm we spend billions of dollars on, that nobody asked for? Well we're done half baking it into all our apps and now we're almost doubling our prices to help pay for it all."

The logic of the utterly deranged...

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[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 4 days ago (27 children)
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[–] Gurglegag@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I’ve had nothing but issues administrating Office 365. A price hike like this is incentivizing me to push other products like Google workspace.

Nice parts are definitely user email tools and some of the audit tools, but I keep finding myself in scenarios where I get error 500s on the server side when I pop open dev tools and it’s like I don’t want to tell my users that they’re SOL but they sort of are if I can’t resolve some error on Microsoft’s o365 servers. Microsoft likes to ask what I did to fix the case if I fix it before they do and I just laugh and not rely to those. They can pay me extra for that or hire me if they want that info.

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