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[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 days ago (42 children)

Name 5 Chinese war crimes,I'll wait 😎

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[–] belastend@slrpnk.net -1 points 6 days ago

Finally, a sane take

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee -2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, not really comparable when it comes to war crimes. If someone wanted to conflate a topic that makes both countries look similarly bad in an honest light, it would be the treatment of ethnic minorities.

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[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah like wtf is this lmao, apparently "war crime" is now when bad country does bad thing

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well Americans are certainly telling Chinese users that their government is committing warcrimes like the meme says

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The worst accusation you could make about China's alleged warcrimes are how neutral they are in regards to Israel. They also sell guns to both sides of the Kashmir conflict, which isn't great. They have sold guns to Israel in the past as commerce, but that's a far cry from the west simply giving Israel weapons and intelligence for free.

Whereas the USA invades a new country on average every 1.5 years and has over 800 overseas military bases. China hasn't had an active overseas military conflict since the Vietnam war. This isn't a comparison at all.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

One of the most frustrating things that I see so commonly, is that when there is criticism of the Chinese government, it is almost always redirected into whataboutism about the US.

I'm not from the US or China. My views are that both these governments are terrible, though I admittedly am not very informed about China. But these kinds of non-responses do not help.

Edit: I do realise that this meme itself sort of sets up the comparison, but I just wish we could analyse the actions of each government independently, without making excuses for one by pointing fingers at the other.

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Which country allows their citizens to openly speak about and protest said war crimes?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 96 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn't matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HandBash@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Did they bring in some tanks as well? Or if they did are we allowed to talk about it?

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can you post pictures of a tank event in the 80s in China without censoring? Can you talk about these protests ?

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

Well the US doesn't. China is hard to say because it's not constantly at war

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Like, the Netherlands or something maybe?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the top comment on that video is defending the police, fascism has it’s hold in many places

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The removed of fascism is always in heat

[–] kautau@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

lol .ml censoring your word here is super apropos

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

downbear

Hard to commit warcrimes when you don't participate in war.

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