Ultimately we have more in common with a normal Chinese person just trying to live their lives than any of us do with our ruling classes. I'm sure those same ruling classes would rather us be less aware of that fact.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are both wrong.

The correct way is to argue passionately that your country has committed the MOST war crimes/genocides/human rights violations. Ya know, bragging rights.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Deutschland betritt den Raum...

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (44 children)

The US drops 46 bombs per day

China hasn't been in an active war in 46 years

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah like wtf is this lmao, apparently "war crime" is now when bad country does bad thing

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Well Americans are certainly telling Chinese users that their government is committing warcrimes like the meme says

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

you see, these 2 are equally as bad because a german that doesn't speak a word of mandarin and has not ever visited china provided me a satellite picture of a big building and wrote a fan fiction about it.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (23 children)

The worst accusation you could make about China's alleged warcrimes are how neutral they are in regards to Israel. They also sell guns to both sides of the Kashmir conflict, which isn't great. They have sold guns to Israel in the past as commerce, but that's a far cry from the west simply giving Israel weapons and intelligence for free.

Whereas the USA invades a new country on average every 1.5 years and has over 800 overseas military bases. China hasn't had an active overseas military conflict since the Vietnam war. This isn't a comparison at all.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hasn't China also sold drones to Indonesia for use in West Papua? I think that might've stopped, though, but I'm not sure.

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (30 children)

Which country allows their citizens to openly speak about and protest said war crimes?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 96 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn't matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 55 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters arrested outside New York Stock Exchange

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Andrew Wimmer was handcuffed and taken to jail on January 22, 2003 because he refused to protest in a ""designated protest zone"" that was out of sight of the President as well as local and national TV news cameras.

A woman, armed with a ""We Love You Bush"" sign showed up at the same corner shortly after Wimmer's arrest. Wimmer asked the police if they were going to arrest her if she didn't move and they said, ""no."" The police also allegedly blocked the national press camera crews and an AP reporter from approaching the protest zone to do reporting.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/dissent-forced-be-out-sight-and-out-mind