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[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Just do it. Stop yapping, start doing. The hemming and hawing and trying to be proper about this shit is infuriating. They don’t play by the rules so, fuck it - pull a Brazil and yank the rug out. It worked.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 4 days ago

Can we get rid of twitter already?

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The government is allowed to mess with cokes recipe because we don't want it to be too bad for people's health. I don't see why we shouldn't mess with algorithms to protect our personal and national health

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Better to just block the site. That's less likely to degenerate into haggling and malicious compliance.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We do, but it's a lot more difficult to enforce. We can't just grab a tweet, open the bottle and check how much sugar is in there

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hmmm, maybe if that bottle of sugar is undermining democracy it shouldn't be allowed. A democracy needs to protect itself from itself

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Democracy needs to protect free speech. Part of that is keeping the information "playground" equal and fair. Fighting disinformation and protecting access to the press is important for that.

A well informed population is vital to prevent the masses from being dragged along by some rich guy just buying a common social media platform

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

100%, that's always been the case since the printing press was invented, but at some point you need to know that hate speech isn't free speech

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"free spend" is that a typo or a term I do not know?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's free speech in USian, thanks to Citizens United.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Never heard of m

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago

Thank you for clarifying! And yes, you're absolutely right. Freedom to speak for what you stand for doesn't mean you're free to speak like an #######.

Although I can see how some people find that confusing

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago
[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lets use their playbook: The only way to protect the electoion in less than 2 months, is to block Twitter and Facebook in germany completely.

Let them go to the courts, I'm sure we can find a lawyer or 2 skilled enough to draw out the process for 6-8 weeks. After that, whatever, unblock them, pay some "sorry we were wrong" money.

Then we have 4 years to solve the problem in a more permanent way.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

pay some “sorry we were wrong” money

1 Euro should suffice.

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 days ago

Please, do it.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

If only they wanted to do it as bad as they want to pass chat control. The western organizations are such a fucking joke.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 158 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Shutting Off X's Algorithm

Hey EU, that's not how any of this works. First of all, you do not have any control over that -- even if you demand it be done, there's no way to verify compliance. Second, there's always an "algorithm." There can't not be an "algorithm;" that would mean it would display nothing at all. Even the choice to just display tweets chronologically is still a choice, and implemented in the form of an "algorithm."

What you do have the power to do -- and what you should do -- is simply just straight-up block X entirely.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Worked brilliantly for the Brazilian government. Lulu pulled the plug for... a week? BlueSky suddenly got incredibly popular. Musk panicked and folded on every demand. And the amount of pro-Bolsonaro/coup-posting on Twitter sank like a brick.

[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Realistically I think that is why banning him even as a brief show of force will be very effective. He understands pain, it’s the universal language.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh they can turn off musk's algorithm quite easily: just ban the whole fucking site.

He's folded like origami on this already, and he'll do it again.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 1 week ago (23 children)

just grow a pair and ban twitter, spacex, starlink, and tesla from operating in europe already.

there's no good reason to let them operate.

this could create e-waste if managed improperly

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They’re mostly all national security threats, especially with Elon and Putin having a special relationship.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Fractured internet here we come

[–] ECB@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

I know this is unpopular and goes against the ideals of the early internet, but the open internet (especially social networks) is hugely damaging at the moment.

This isn't just "people having different opinions", but rather full-scale cyber warfare that's currently happening. It's also only going to get worse...

Propaganda works, and it works quite well. Nobody is fully immune.

So unless you feel like having Musk/Russia/China dictate your life (through forcing their shit agenda), banning their attack vectors is really the only play.

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me paraphrase a Hungarian saying in English, related to doing the bare minimum:

Thank you for going to the toilet and not taking a shit right where you were!

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Better shut off the complete platform. And issue an international arrest warrant for foreign poitical influence / election interference.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Kill X already

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