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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It takes two to tango. No-one is holding a gun to her head or shackling her in chains up to DiCaprio. This is 100% her decision.

And for anyone who then claims, “but she’s not 21, she’s not even legally an adult!!!1!”… how can you possibly call yourself a feminist if you’re going to absolve adult women of personal responsibility? You’re reducing these women to the state of children or the intellectually disabled who cannot make and follow through with decisions of their own, and need to be “taken care of” like cattle or property.

And that is massively misogynistic.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I wish I could throw stones on this but if I was an international A list celebrity with many millions of dollars and some of the worlds most attractive women, women so attractive that they are professionally attractive regularly wanted to date me I cant say 100% that Id behave any better.

I mean, the man engages in consential relationships with women of legal age and so far I havent heard any allegations of domestic violence, sexual assault, underage shenanigans or P Diddy shit.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you value attractiveness above all else, sure. I like my life partner to be a similar level of maturity and to have similar life experiences. It's not illegal, but it's telegraphing a lot about his values and mindset.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know what you mean. I'm currently dating someone 6 years younger than me, and while we're both technically Millennials, I have so many childhood experiences that she simply cannot relate to. She doesn't know any 90s references, never had to use dial-up internet, and her first gaming system was a Wii. Some of my high school memories are her middle school memories, but for the most part she relates more to Gen Z than I ever could.

I love her but I wish we were closer together in age.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ya it’s pretty clear he just wants to fuck. I guess that’s cool and all. But surely there is more to life than just fucking? Shrug what do I know.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. Plus he dates them. He's not one night standing them. Who cares, let them live.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like, meme about it all you like but maybe pull up short of the pedo accusations.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 day ago

Pedo accusations are dilatory... Focus on actually pedos, get the wood chipper going.

Calling Two audlts fucking pedophilia is hurting actual victims. False accusations have socialtal cost.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean he was at Diddy parties so there is time, but I tend to agree they’re all adults and although I find it weird they can do what they want.

I find it weird because aside from sex, you really have nothing in common with teenagers once you hit a certain age.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

In a weird way, he probably has more in common with a model who travels the world, goes to fancy parties and fashion shows than most other people. They probably move in very similar circles and live closer lives than you or I do to them.

"It sucks being pretty and rich"

"Oh I know, want to go eat literally anywhere because we dont need to make reservations or worry about what it costs because I'm Leonardo DiCaprio?"

"I'm a 19yo model, I dont eat. But Hugo Boss told me about a boutique cafe hidden in a laundromat that does glacial diet waters"

"Was that at the Milan thing after I got done shooting in Venice?"

"No, Prague remember, we were talking about where to stay in Monaco after fashion week in London."

[–] watty@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the consent points. The thing that makes this problematic to me is the inherent power dynamic in this kind of dating.

A couple years after college, I was underway in my career, and I was dating someone who was still in school. Even with only a few years apart, that difference in where we were in our lives made a very uncomfortable power dynamic. It occasionally left me feeling like a father figure rather than an equal partner. I can only imagine how that would be even more significant now that I've had a successful career for over a decade, if I were dating an 18 year old now.

This lends the thought to me: what kind of person would seek out a relationship with that kind of dynamic instead of seeking someone who can be an actual partner? I can't think of anything that doesn't logically lead to conclusions in the vicinity of abuse.

If it's not really a relationship, but a consensual casual thing, then it seems less concerning to me. But if it's truly dating and an attempt to build a true relationship rather than being transactional, it certainly feels ethically darker to me.

I don't really care about Leo in particular, but the general concept of dating younger people seems like it opens an ethical gray area where my opinions are uncertain, or at least very situational.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oh if it was my daughter Id definitely be less than ok with it, If it was Leo and a random 19yo "girl" i'd feel that was very questionable. But its two famous people I hardly give a fuck about...

[–] Free_Opinions 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Men being attracted to young girls and those girls being attracted to succesful men is nothing new. Its been like that thorought the entire human history. It's in our genes. Just like enjoying high-caloric food.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Men being attracted to young girls

Women?

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

inb4 you explain ephebophilia

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago

yes I know I'm being facetious and implying that excusing this age gap is similar behavior

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of very attractive older women though. Arguably more attractive, imo. Not that I really care who DeCaprio dates as long as they're adults; it's just kind of weird and funny he only dates women under 25.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Again, it's fun to think his 2035 girlfriend just entered preschool.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly, SNL is missing out on some low hanging fruit not having him on Meet Your 2nd Wife.

I suppose he's not marrying these women though...

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Models are nuts. Are those real pictures of her? Because she looks insanely old for 18. I'm 40, and I don't think I look as old as she does!

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's the thick makeup making her look that much older, I think.

[–] vorlaut_boy@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

self-perception is a bitch, hu?

That gives her at least 6 years of potential staying power. He must just be annoyed of having to change girlfriend so often

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't know whether I'm on the side of

  • He'd probably go lower if he could (which doesn't seem unlikely given his dating history BUT it's also a complete hypothetical)

  • He's a consenting adult, they're a consenting adult, so what's the big deal?

Conflicted feelings. I certainly wouldn't date someone half my age (or even lower in Leo's case), but that's predominantly for not being able to relate to them much - not for physical reasons.

People may be shocked at this, but an attractive 20 year old woman is still attractive whether you're 15, 20, 40, or 55.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Be glad he's not going lower, cause many, many are. They're just doing it out of sight.

Also, this is a transactional relationship. The woman is getting access to high level directors and producers at the parties Leo takes her too. She's not that naive.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indeed.

I was going to write another line about how to me the most objectionable part to me is that he dumps them as they enter their mid-late 20s and that it must hurt them emotionally, but let's be real, you're right – these women know this will happen from the very start. They're going in with their eyes open. It's a transactional relationship, and they're fine with that.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 day ago

that he dumps them as they enter their mid-late 20s and that it must hurt them emotionally,

Anymore than when my college girl friend dumped me?

I don't see anyone posting about sunzu2's pain!

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago

The deal is that the media runs on contrived outrage and the cattle who fall for it.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He brings her to parties on his yacht while telling us to be careful with our emissions

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 day ago

That's the real crime

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've always wondered if celebrities with much younger partners are somehow tapping into their life force and therefore need to replace them regularly. You know, kind of like a battery for life-leaching vampires.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Like Amy and Professor Farnsworth

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Love when people out how sexist they really are. They're two consenting adults but for "some reason" yall cannot accept that an adult woman can willingly enter in a relationship with a man of her choice and have to automatically accuse her of playing into some pedo fantasies, being a victim of an abuser, or that she's just dumb.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Every thread about Leo and his current woman brings out the sexism. I've always figured it's the incels who can't get a date that figure woman have to be tricked, as if a young woman has no agency.

But see, they can't be sexist, because they're defending the poor little clueless thing.

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