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LG and Samsung have both announced their 2025 smart TVs at CES this weekend, and some of them will include access to Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant. Both TV manufacturers are chasing the artificial intelligence hype train with dedicated AI sections on their smart TVs that include a shortcut to a Copilot web app.

LG is adding an entire AI section to its TVs and rebranding its remote to “AI Remote,” in an effort to sell consumers on the promise of large language models. While it’s not clear exactly how Copilot works on LG’s latest TVs, the company describes access to Copilot as a way to allow users to “efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.”

LG hasn’t demonstrated its Copilot integration just yet, but it has shown off its own AI Chatbot that’s part of its TVs. It appears Copilot will be surfaced when LG TV users want to search for more information on a particular subject.

Samsung also has its own Vision AI brand for its AI-powered TV features this year, which include AI upscaling, Auto HDR Remastering, and Adaptive Sound Pro. There’s also a new AI button on the remote to access AI features like recognizing food on a screen or AI home security features that analyze video feeds from smart cameras. 

Microsoft’s Copilot will be part of this Vision AI section. “In collaboration with Microsoft, Samsung announced the new Smart TVs and Smart Monitors featuring Microsoft Copilot,” says Samsung in a press release. “This partnership will enable users to explore a wide range of Copilot services, including personalized content recommendations.”

I asked Samsung for more information or images of Copilot in action, but the company doesn’t have anything more to share right now. I’ve also asked LG and Microsoft for more information about Copilot on TVs and neither company has responded in time for publication. Without any indication of exactly how Copilot works on these TVs, I’m going to chalk this one up as a gimmicky feature that LG, Samsung, and Microsoft clearly aren’t ready to demo yet.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

The A in AI just stands for Ads.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

When I first bought my LG TV, the homescreen was great. The cursor-thing with the remote was annoying, but it didn’t really have ads, it had every app I needed, etc.

But it kept updating and then demanding I give it more permissions. Kept getting worse and worse as time went on. So recently I said fuck it, bought an Apple TV, and did a factory reset on the TV. The TV is just a TV now, it has no WiFi access so it doesn’t ever bother me. And the Apple TV is better than the LG OS ever was. Also I can bring the Apple TV to hotels (if they have accessible HDMI ports) which is pretty neat.

[–] jsonjson@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I am using local models through home assistant. The fact I can run something equivalent to GPT 3.5 turbo on a $800 graphics card kind of negates any of the benefits of these dumb integrations that require NPUs. Maybe Microsoft should bring back basic quality of life improvements that were in Windows 10 in Windows 11 instead of desperately waving their arms around trying to be relevant to consumers. Dumbasses.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Microshit OS division is the best advertising Linux ever got.

Shhj

[–] jsonjson@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'd love to use Linux for work, but my job pays me to endure pain.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I have no issue using it for work. It works mehh enough to slow me down from making too much my job creator

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh my god, fucking stop. Nobody wants this. Nobody asked for this.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Advertisers are begging for it. The ability to ingest your data at record scale and bombard you with privatized propaganda as fee-for-service is hugely in demand.

Just have to recognize that these appliances aren't for you to control. This is Microsoft's world and we're just renting space in it.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Time really is a flat circle huh?
This all just sounds like the Alexa/Google Assistant integration some brands were advertising for their TVs previously, just ends up as the obnoxious button you bump into and desperately try to back out while the aging TV huffs and puffs struggling to load the flashy UI

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Who analyzes vast amounts of data on their TV?

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I rooted my LG C1 and blocked system updates. I use a homebrew channel to download external packages.

Good luck pushing this crapware on me.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I've wanted to root my LG, but I'm not sure how. The last thing I found for that when looking involved using the JavaScript on a website I think. Seemed sketchy.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Well, I wasn't going to buy their spyware shit anyway.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 15 points 8 hours ago

Just imagine how much money Microsoft must be investing in this mass surveillance program they are trying to sneak in under the guise of the AI in charge of its indexing.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I got a 2024 LG OLED TV. It has "AI" but idk what it does exactly. During the setup process there was a step that had a shitty still image of a baby with some crappy music playing. There were two toggle switches to enable AI picture and sound. It was so cheesy. I can't make this shit up. When you turned on picture AI the baby image became HD and a video instead of a still image. I was like "Oh my God, wow! Look at the AI! I wonder what the AI sound is??" So we turn it on and the sound gets high def and adds more instruments in.

In case it isn't clear, none of this was actually AI or enabling actual features on the TV, just some weird required step in the process of setup. It wasn't an AI animated video or sound, just a different video of the baby and a different audio track.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 hours ago

Reminds me of the advertisements for DVDs that would play on VHS tapes, like... I'm watching this on a VHS.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago

I literally just want a screen to watch blu-ray's

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Ugh. I just want a dumb TV. I want a nice hi res screen and that's it. Seems everyone else wants big TV at low cost and that's why we get this shite.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm toying with the idea of just getting an LCD projector - I don't care about seeing every pore on the actor's faces, 1024x768 is fine.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I bought a very expensive one a few years ago thinking the same thing, but don't use it because you get nothing close to the vividness of a regular screen. And I'm not a videophile, I'll happily watch most of my shows at 720p, but the color and depth are just really bad on a projection screen, even with the lights out. I end up just using an old 1080 LCD I fixed the backlights on when I got it for free.

Plus the fan noise is fucking annoying.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Did you project onto a wall or a projection screen?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I used a special reflective paint for projectors on a wall.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

🫣why not 1080p? With 1024, you have no integer scale, and every movie looks like shit.. At least go for 1080 or 720, but not this strange resolution where literally no content fits

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Damn, really showing my age here 😳

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Ya, we coded on CRTs with 1024x768.

The utmost luxury was to have 1280x1024 IIRC.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

As far as I know, all smart TVs are user-hostile in the sense that they will be used against you if you connect them to the internet.

The least bad is Sony. Buy it, keep it offline forever, and enjoy good-quality video. Avoid all the other trash companies as if your privacy depended on it.

[–] jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What makes you say Sony is the least bad? Don’t those things run a Google software stack?

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

They do use Android, yes. I think they are least bad because I can still buy a Sony TV, never connect it to the internet, and still have a TV that works and has a good quality picture.

There are other TV brands - one commenter mentioned Hisense - that will refuse to work until connected to the internet. Other, cheaper brands like TCL, Vizio, and Onn usually have pretty bad-looking screens comparatively. Samsung and LG usually have fine-looking screens but are also more aggressive about pushing ads on your TV than Sony is.

I despise Sony as a company and I have no brand loyalty, but in my experience they seem to offer the least bad TV overall at the moment. If anyone's experience is different, I would appreciate them sharing it here.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago

Former smart TV app developer. I'm going to drive my old dumb lcd TV into the ground before I'm forced to use a "smart" TV.

I prefer casting, but for convenience for my wife, we have a fire tv stick.

I want my panels rendering, not thinking / reporting.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I should have bought a new tv like 5 years ago.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can confirm, I bought my LG OLED 65" in 2019 and... it's a little slow (sluggish UI) but the display is still amazing. Great sound, too.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And that sluggish UI is intentional to make it feel old. There is no way that their basic ass gui is taxing the system.

I have a 65G1 and I love it but having it locked down sucks and I wont be getting another LG if there anything close to theie featureset available.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Probably intentional, yeah. 😔

You got any other brands of TV you could recommend?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sony are cunts but they were a close second to LG, so if they have upped their game at a similar price point I'll be interested. Panasonic is always strong too.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Thank god i only have this old Toshiba TV,And if LG and Samsung made it opt out then am fine with that.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I agree with the sentiment but let me turn the volume up a bit.

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And here I was thinking I should upgrade to a nice big OLED and get a PS5 when GTA VI comes out, as it'll undoubtedly be another console exclusive. Of course, LG was at the forefront of consideration, they do make nice OLED panels and mostly everyone else using OLED also uses their panels.

Now they're out of consideration too, along with Samsung (which I currently own)

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Samsung suck definitely good to stay away, Sony or Panasonic.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Mine doesn't even have the weird UI ads people would always post on reddit, it just... sucks.

If you're going to run an OS other than Android or Linux with Plasma Bigscreen, at least make it not suck. Tizen on Samsung TVs just sucks.

Unremovable buttons for Netflix, Prime and... WTF even is a Rakuten? on the remote which has a total of less than 15 buttons. Why... It was so minimalistic.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

What annoys me is the buttons are not editable, I want plex not rakuten. I have only ever pressed that bu accident. Samsung suck

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I really wish it was easier to open up a TV, rip out all the compute and replace it with a custom display driver. Someone could unironically make a decent amount of money selling diy TV stupidification kits

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