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I’ve been on lemmy for over a year now, and I just realized I used to read all those HackerNews articles + their comments, I haven’t done that in probably 6 months because the discussion here has gotten much better. What’s changed for you with Lemmy over the last year?

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Given that this website has experienced the Reddit migration (I am one of those migrants), it has definitely started to feel a bit like Reddit, but it still differs in a lot of ways. There's less bots, actually engaging conversations, actual content. To me, this website continues to capture the vibe of the early Web2 days of the internet in a way that Reddit clearly moved away from, definitely so that its executives can make more of them monies. It feels a bit nostalgic in a way, and that's what I like about this website.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Election spam which filled the front page is mostly gone.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Getting a bit busier these days

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

For me, Lemmy was a place where I mostly found like-minded people. Even if we don't always agree (and we shouldn't) I have had some genuine feedback to the thoughts that haunt me or tickle me. Nevertheless, I was surprised at the interinstance drama which I mostly ignore. And I think that the base probability of transphobia is higher than the sidebar rules would implicate. I am always surprised when I see naive and uninformed takes.

Although I do have found a place to share such thoughts with less harassment and backlash than Reddit, there is some unearned harassment and hating here as well, eg there are some consistent downvoters, to the effect I have a single downvote to anything I post.

Although I think that here in Lemmy I enjoy a higher probability of getting thoughtful responses and well-intended humor to what I post, I feel that a number of people I have interacted with me were highly prejudiced I was a troll or a bad faith actor.

This lack of trust to other users is one of the greatest achievements of fascists and spooks, and they have successfully used it with freedom movements everywhere.

I was also surprised at how conservative the privacy community is. Compared to the amount of radical content posted on every other topic, I find myself among those who think that c/Privacy actively discourages newcomers from developing advanced privacy and anonymity skills.

The privacy thing and some aspects of the Democrats situation pre- and post- election make me think that there is some "manufacturing of consensus" bad faith actors among us. This can lead to disbanding of any project, so we need a solid mindset, in which we assume good faith, but have exact methods for handling disagreement and genuine questions, but also look out for bad faith actors and take steps to build healthy online communities for anarchist and communist free and private software enthusiasts.

Afterthoughts

  • The sitewide rules ask us to assume good faith, be civil, and discuss thoughtfully. As it happens, we fail to adhere, and I am to blame as well. I am quite uncivil to people I disagree, but it is often forgiven because a lot of other people are cheering. This makes us a stupid crowd by the way.
  • As a Disclaimer, I switched sides wrt to Democrats. Although I had chosen not to post anything pre-election, I was like "Quit this nonsense and vote Democrats already". I was radicalized after the election, and now think that Democrats are lobbying grifters and can stuff it.
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The visible buildup and collapse of anti-democrat propaganda pre- and post-election. Then blaming the democrats for trump’s win. The shift to pushing intergenerational conflict shortly after and blaming specific generations for trump’s win. Now blaming the democrats for everything the Republicans do.

Pretty much a steady undercurrent of individuals attempting to blame democrats for everything.

That wasn’t a Lemmy problem before. Sure, we had issues with grad or ml, but there really wasn’t such a uniform front pushing such monochromatic propaganda.

That, and I think some of the edge has come off of Lemmy as a techie/linux platform. It’s still there, but I think there’s a much better variety of discussions now.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Leftists existing and being critical of liberal right-wingers was not an organized campaign, rather, it was a salient discussion around the US Election. The Leftists are still here doing what they always do.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Started to participate in discussion more and pleasantly surprised actual conversations happen and the comment section is not flooded with generic bot shit within minutes.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I first came here, I was so jaded, with the expectation that every account was a bot or an asshole. Seeing the actual conversation among humans has been nice.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. The jadedness coming off of reddit is real. Took me half a year to slowly start participating

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's something I really like about Lemmy. You can have actual conversations. On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people. You couldn't just talk with one person.

I don't mind other people joining in, but reddit makes it impossible to do 1-on-1.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people.

Lemmy really does give the feel of "early reddit" where it was small enough for real communities, where you would recognize regulars and see them in multiple subs.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

In my view, Lemmy ecospace became a lot more dark. People are snarkier, less prone to engage in polite conversation and divergent opinions get hounded.

I also sense an increased tendency for doom and gloom. Nihilism is on the rise, as well.

[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Would you say the doom and gloom is Lemmy specific, or more of a global thing, given the state of life ATM?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm only on Lemmy. Can't speak for other places. On my day to day life, people are concerned with living their lives.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

less prone to engage in polite conversation

What the fuck did you just say to me, you little shit lemming? I'll have you know that I graduated top of my class in online forum debates...

/jk

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[–] soloner@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (7 children)

A lot more comments like reddit that are the quick (very tired) zingers. I was happy to get away from that but I'm sort of thinking of putting lemmy down if it gets worse.

I don't need your "this." Or "broken arms" or "that's insulting to trash" etc.

It's beyond tired. But it gets up voted and can dominate the comments section. I appreciate threads like this one that promote actual discussion.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel that, too, but also...

There's a large number of news articles that it feels literally pointless to respond to with anything other than jokey derision because it feels like we've been talking to people about those issues for two decades (or more for some of us) and no one listened.

So, with a lot of it... what is there even to talk about anymore and instead crack jokes to try to feel less dead inside?

I fully agree, but at the same time find myself making jokey throwaway comments on the millionth thread about "turns out Trump was lying about his campaign promises!!!!" as if anyone with a fucking brain couldn't figure that out since at least 2015. It just feels pointless to engage with beyond comedy when the media continues to sanewash that guy.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Lemmy is teaching me things by accident.

Most recently; I've started learning media literacy and now I can see all the same manufactured consent and narrative shaping that exists in legacy media and social media like Facebook and reddit; but in .world and lemmee too

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy has become my main social media outlet. For better or worse, Lemmy's just my kind of place. I'm off of all mainstream social media except LinkedIn, which I barely use, but keep around for work related reasons.

I do still peruse Reddit, mainly for TV shows and niche subjects I can't find here. But I haven't logged in or posted since the first major exodus over the API pricing, and have no plans of returning.

I do post on Mastodon from time to time, but the format is just too geared towards short form content, and ultimately just isn't my cup of tea.

So yeah. I'm generally happy to be here with you all shooting the shit about politics, Linux, etc. Long live Lemmy!

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[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

It’s actually had content for me now

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's become clear that Lemmy is not about to take off. For most users, it's probably a fine Reddit clone, but it's not about to replace the big R.

I'm sure that will change in 2025. 🧌

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Lemmy doesn’t need to "take off" or compete with Reddit to succeed. Growth for the sake of growth holds little inherent value. Unlike commercial platforms reliant on VC funding to survive, Lemmy thrives on sustainability. What really matters is that there are enough developers to maintain the platform, people to host the server, and users to create content. With these elements in place, Lemmy can continue indefinitely without the need for explosive growth.

In fact, rapid growth could do more harm than good. A sudden influx of users often brings toxic behaviors, especially those migrating from platforms like Reddit. When new users trickle in slowly, they adapt to the existing norms and culture of the community. But when a horde arrives, they risk overwhelming and reshaping the community in ways that trample over its core values. A slow, steady stream of users allows for organic integration, preserving the essence of what makes Lemmy pleasant.

Unlike commercial platforms, open-source projects don’t rely on profit motives to survive. They’re driven by people who directly benefit from their work and are passionate about their vision. When disagreements arise, projects can be forked, allowing different groups to take them in new directions. Even if a project is abandoned, it can be revived by a new team as long as there’s a dedicated community. This flexibility and resilience make open source inherently more sustainable than commercial platforms, which can vanish overnight if funding dries up.

The Fediverse, and Lemmy within it, only needs a large enough user base to remain self-sustaining. I'd argue that it’s already well past that threshold. There’s no rush to grow rapidly. Steady progress ensures the community retains its identity and values, while the open-source nature of the platform guarantees its longevity. Lemmy isn’t just another platform; it’s a sustainable, adaptable ecosystem built to endure. I'm willing to bet that Lemmy will still be around long after Reddit crumbles to dust.

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[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

Starting to see different people reposting stuff on similar communities, which reminds me a lot of that other site. Not a huge fan.

I've also started noticing people downvoting instead of engaging when they disagree with something as well, which is frustrating.

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

More content and more comments. I basically only use mastodon and lemmy for my memes nowadays and as general social media.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

My participation has dropped a lot compared to when I only just joined. There is only so much us centric doomer content I can stomach, and Lemmy is so extremely political that it is impossible to just browse cat memes and have a good time. So I spend less time here I suppose.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago

I almost never see political content or cat memes. I think your experience comes down to your subscription list.

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Well, I'm here now. So there's that.

You're welcome. /s

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

All of the "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" spammers mysteriously disappeared

Edit: my point is that they seem awfully quiet about Trump

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, the vote happened and she's not running anymore, sooooooo not really a reason for them to keep talking about that issue?

Also, I remember a couple usernames from some of the most vocal and I just went and looked and it's not like they up and deleted their accounts or stopped using Lemmy. They're still active, so they didn't "disappear."

@queermunist@lemmy.ml was pretty loud about that opinion and they're still here, for example.

I know reddit being flooded with bots for 10 years has made y'all jaded but real people with real opinions that differ from ours shockingly still exist.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

I will

NEVER

log off!

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Idk if you maybe missed the news but the election ended. Like awhile ago.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

The election ended, the Leftists are still here. What were you expecting to happen?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

Is this a joke? They didn’t leave, the election cycle did.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

With the end of the US election, there has been a bit of an ideological demographic shift, but more of a strong wind than a foundational upset.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

It seems more active now. Which has been great!

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The cell phone apps are a lot better nowadays. They look a lot better.

I've been posting more fedi content instead of just the popular links.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy is my only social media interaction these days, the content has improved, and the communities feel more distinct than they did a year ago. That could just be me getting up to speed though.

It was a nice surprise finding out that the left wing instances on here are actually pretty chill, way more so than on Reddit these days.

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