Rape because there's no way for a 10 year old to mentally grasp the responsibility and weight of consent, so even if they said the right words that they consented, which they almost certainly did not, they wouldn't be properly informed of what they're consenting to, making the consent completely devoid of any meaning, aka, making it rape.

He values the lives of unwanted potential people, who are little more than parasites sucking life from the mother until they can sustain themselves without the need to leech another lifeform for existence.... Above all women, and even child mothers that are victims of incest and rape.

And they see this as the moral choice?

Can we let Luigi go? His job isn't finished. There's still a lot of bottom feeding scum around that need to be... Ahem dealt with.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

See I like that you acknowledge that they're possibly people because the entire debate on that is a smokescreen to distract from the fact that people or not they don't have a right to use the mothers body as life support.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a good point. In every other context, nobody is forced to help anyone else.

You're not forced to give up your kidney because Jimmy over there needs it and you're the only match. You get to choose whether to help Jimmy.

This is the only context where someone is forced into giving aide to another living thing whether they want to or not.

We have laws against being cruel to animals, and harming our fellow humans, but there are no laws against not helping except for this. That's an incredibly powerful argument. Thanks.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

At some point I wrote an ode to "A Modest Proposal" where I suggest that men be required to provide anatomical gifts to their progeny (blood, skin, and any duplicate organ including eyes) to even out the cost to the mother in the creation of a child. The increased gravity of the gift is evened out by the decreased likelihood- giving a kidney would be harder on the body, but is less likely to be needed.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

rapists shouldn't get a say in their children's lives. period. at all.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

We have to embrace false dichotomies because the only alternative is cannibalism.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, they're saying that they're okay with a child giving birth, which is just as bad.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

they're fine with child rape. that enough right there disqualifies whatever other opinions they hold. they're wrong.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

The abortion isn't gonna unrape the girl, just saying

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Who the fuck said we had to choose either? We can live in a world with neither, and that world requires women's rights, including the right to abortion.

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