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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 155 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Who the fuck said we had to choose either? We can live in a world with neither, and that world requires women's rights, including the right to abortion.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hot take. Jesus would be anti child rape and pro abortion.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Jesus would at least take accountability. He would recognize those children not being born is only a result of our ineffectual society and their warped priorities.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Did you not consider that they were adding to your point?

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The real kicker is: no amount of 10yo parents is going to prevent abortions. We've been through this whole song and dance before. The abortions didn't stop, just a lot more women died.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They want to go back to women dying from abortions, because they think women who get abortions are murderers who deserve to die. Until it’s someone they know and suddenly the reasons for the abortion matter and they’re the special exception.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who the fuck said we had to choose either?

They did, and pointing that out will (I'm guessing) be met with some form of covering their ears and saying "nah nah nah I can't hear you."

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I've seen the sort. When confronted with the real-world results of their moralizing, they retreat to quoting cherry-picked Bible verses and posting pictures of fetuses ("look how human she looks!").

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look how human she looks! Unknowingly points at pig fetus

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"It was all part of god's plan for you to have this [pig] baby!"

You know that episode of Futurama where Bender needs an update to be compatible with the new kind of robot, and he ends up living out a fantasy of escaping to an island of discarded robots where he lead an uprising?

There are people who need to be forced to live out their own personal Eraserhead.

[–] Riversedgeknight1@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Random question but I'm just wondering your position on this. Is the burden of proof on pro-choice or pro-life advocates when it comes to the humanity of a fetus? In other words, should abortion be legal until we can prove that a fetus is human or should it be illegal until we can prove it isn't? Just genuinely curious.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

They didn't answer, so I will. Trust the experts. This is too complex for us amateurs to balance the level of development of the foetus versus the health and thriving of the woman versus the social and economic effects of allowing the foetus to have a go at becoming more developed

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago

They're saying that an incestuous rape baby being born every year is a lesser evil than abortions being legal. They're wrong, but insofar as they believe that, they're not going to support a woman's right to choose.

[–] Free_Opinions 1 points 5 days ago

We can live in a world with neither

We can decrease the amount of evil in the world but we'll never get rid of it entirely.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you not read their post?

How does protecting abortion rights prevent abortions?

I don't agree with them but at least I understand their position.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you not paid attention to the world?

Abortion rights are almost always bundled with women's rights, medical care and contraception access. As a result, those societies with the easiest access to abortions actually have the lowest amount of abortions than societies that criminalize it. Coincidentally it also has the lowest number of women's deaths, but I can already guess that you don't care about that part. They are also societies where it is less likely that a child is raped by her father and forced to give birth at 10, since women's rights are more ingrained in culture, but I already know that by this point you stopped reading.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 days ago

Fuck, you didn't even manage to make it through my comment either.

That's amazing.