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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 125 points 1 week ago (1 children)

probably a man living in USA

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Guaranteed, anyone with access to real healthcare would've had that checked out immediately.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 93 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was shitting blood, turned grey, and fainted in public. I did go the hospital. They literally said "idk" and sent me home with a 4000$ bill. It kept happening.

Went to a specialist that also resulted in a literal "idk", and they wouldn't clear a colonoscopy because I am "too young" and "don't have a family history." I was begging them to figure it out because this was a fucking nightmare. Nope. At least the bill was 400$ this time around.

It kept happening for over a year at random. Actually terrifying.

FINALLY, I put myself on a diet of oatmeal and water for a month and slowly introduced new foods every week. I was curious to know if maybe certain foods triggered it?

Turns out: yes. I triggered a reaction using one of my favorite foods/ingredients. No idea why, but I had developed some kind of severe intolerance to it. And I had to figure it out myself.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm very sorry that you went through that. I know it sucks with the American healthcare $ystem, but you are always allowed to seek a second opinion and any provider that is opposed to that is a bad provider and you shouldn't see them again anyways.

One thing to keep in mind about the ER though, is that they're there to rule out anything that is going to kill you quickly, and if you didn't lose enough blood to drop your hemoglobin count (a measure of how many red blood cells you have), it is perfectly within the standard of care for them to discharge you and tell you to follow up with your primary care physician or a specialist. The ER has a lot of resources, but not enough resources to fully diagnose every possible problem. They can make sure you're not on death's doorstep, and stabilize you if you are, but beyond that, they're pretty strapped for resources and staffing which make it hard to fully work up every mystery diagnosis.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I'm going to be charged 4000$, I want a fucking diagnosis.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, a solid diagnosis can be really hard to find and there are a lot of diseases and conditions that require more testing than can be completed in the ER. Part of why the ER is expensive is because the tests they do get come back almost immediately, but they very rarely order the tests that take a long time anyways. Expediency and staffing are the main contributors to the cost of emergency care.

With the example of your case, how would the ER get you the diagnosis of a food intolerance without spending weeks on an elimination diet? There are some allergies that can be tested for, but that testing involves injecting a sample of the offending agent under the skin and watching to see if it causes irritation.... but allergies and food intolerances are not the same thing and the only way to test for food intolerances is an elimination diet. For the allergy testing, the ER doesn't have the samples to do the subcutaneous injections. It's really only allergy specialists that have those available.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

how would the ER get you the diagnosis of a food intolerance without spending weeks on an elimination diet?

They sent me out without literally any clue as to what it was. My body felt like a ticking tine bomb, and I was terrified it would happen again. And it did. Several times. I had no idea it was an intolerance until nearly a year later. My weight kept yoyo-ing and I lost almost 30lbs in 2 months. I was terrified of my own body.

No medical professional told me about the elimination diet or even that it could have been food-related. I got desperate enough to try it on my own after my sister was talking some shit about "cleansing toxins" and mentioned it. I looked it up and did it on my own accord.

I get that ER is for emergencies, sure, but I left with zero answers and didn't have access to another specialist, as they're at least an hour and half drive away from my town. And VERY full. Not everyone has access to a second opinion.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago

This is true and the healthcare access problem is more than just cost. If you're an hour and a half away from any specialists, then the ER you went to likely doesn't have access to set up those referrals. I have worked in both metropolitan and rural medical systems, and the biggest problems in rural healthcare are almost always access-based. If a hospital/ER is not in the same medical group as a specialist, they can't put in emergency referrals to that specialist, and I have worked in rural hospitals that don't even always have imaging services available. There's an MRI on a trailer that gets brought around to the various hospitals in the group meaning that each hospital has one day a week or one day every other week where an MRI is available. The other option a small, rural ER has is to call EMS to transfer you to another hospital with more resources, but if your insurance doesn't like the reason they give, you end up on the hook for that 90 minute ambulance ride. Small community hospitals are really between a rock and a hard place when it comes to connecting patients with resources while trying to avoid unnecessary expenses.

The best advice I have for anyone in a rural area with poor healthcare access is to establish care with a family physician for primary care because, most of the time, the primary care physician is the one that actually gets to the bottom of things or coordinates the referrals for specialists. If you have a standing relationship with a physician, it's a lot easier to make an appointment and they have a baseline to work from as opposed to starting from scratch like an ER physician has to.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What was the allergy, out of curiosity?

I'm figuring out my own allergies. Atm on a GFCF diet. Seems to be working somewhat.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just green onion? I tried allium exclusion for a while. So green onions give you allergies, but like, garlic doesn't?

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Correct. It still baffles me a bit.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah figuring out mine is a bitch.

I stay on a diet and then just out of seemingly no reason will get symptoms.

Well most of them are gone now but like today I had something which I was allergic to but no idea what. Oh wait perhaps it was the tomato. But then the delay would've been like weirdly long.

Anyways it's a bitch.

Sometimes I really enjoy making food but then with all these reactions, sometimes I'm share Captain Holt's opinion

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 63 points 1 week ago (14 children)

You can't just not say what it was

[–] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was definitely something weird that everyone would tell them was the obvious thing.

[–] Doxin@pawb.social 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I just like dipping my fries in crude oil. What of it?"

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

"I had recently switched from salt on my tomatoes to crushed glass for the extra crunch."

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Can relate, my dad sees 'going to the doctor' as a personal weakness and thus rarely goes.

[–] shani66@ani.social 38 points 1 week ago

I see it as financial weakness and thus rarely go.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Many if not most men are like this. It's usually their wives or another woman in their lives that drags them in when something is about to fall off. It's another way in which husbands leave 71% of a household’s ‘mental load’ on their wives, down to their own well being.

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 4 points 6 days ago

Men are raised to bring money into the household, and it can easily be half a years wages to go to the hospital. It's weird to act like they are being malicious to their partner by being this way.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Maybe bro just eats a fuckton of beets

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Mr. Rockefeller over here seeing doctors

[–] LifeLemons@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago (8 children)
[–] Tiempo@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 days ago

Plenty of reasons. Twice i woke up with my pijama pants full of blood, like, full. No scar, no wound, nothing, just blood. I never knew where it came from (as all places from where it could have come were with blood) but I assume it was urinated. It was a side effect of an antidepressant I was taking that start happening two years after beginning the treatment. I had to change the antidepressant and it never happened again

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's a key sign of kidney failure. It can happen rarely in cases of some crazy workouts, but if this dude is saying all the time then it's probably something worse.

[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It can happen rarely in cases of some crazy workouts

If anyone's curious about why:

Muscles break down during workouts. They release myoglobin, which is a large protein. The kidneys can usually filter it in small quantities.

If you go too hard and give yourself rhabdomyolysis, your body releases a large quantity of myoglobin and it overloads the kidneys. Large proteins begin passing through the nephrons en masse and damaging them because they're too big.

Now your kidneys are unable to filter properly because the nephrons cannot contract to prevent excess fluids or particles from going into your urine.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also could be a UTI or STI(s). Or he eats beets all the time and isn't particularly bright. Could be anything, spin the wheel of medical disasters!

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[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Yeah, bladder cancer.

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[–] AmberRose@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's dangerous, that could be sexual transmitted disease 💬🤔or kidney diseases

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's not rule out bladder cancer.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

Painless hematuria (blood in the urine without pain when peeing) is one of the first (and frequently only) signs of bladder cancer. Especially if it's frank blood (meaning that you can see it without a microscope).

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