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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 43 minutes ago

Tbh, I see how this can be really good for people. We can never again believe that what apples are saying online is really representative of the general population. It never has been, but now we have a really solid reason to dispel the belief that doesn't require much explanation.

That said, we'll need to combat this with more right knit communities where people can better identify themselves as human. Captcha doesn't do that, but the Goth girls on VF so long ago had it figured out. We gotta do proper "salutes".

[–] GuitarSon2024@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

This is the whole reason that I discovered and came to Lemmy. Reddit is literally 90% bots, from the posts, to the filtering, to the censoring, to outright banning. It's a mess.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 minutes ago

Or getting this shit after you comment somewhere:

"Excuse me but could you please send a direct message to our admins to verify your account before placing a comment? Everyone has to do it."

I replied "go fuck yourself" and they banned me instantly and I never even submitted anything lmao.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

But I mean, AI is the asshole, so maybe that's why they went to the front page?

[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 39 points 15 hours ago (3 children)
[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 11 hours ago

there isnt so much incentive. No advertisement. Upvote counters behave weirdly in the fediverse (from what i can see).

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There are no virtual points to earn on Lemmy. So hopefully it will resist the enshitification for while.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I still dont see why people care about reddit karma. Its just a number?

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 hours ago

Account age and karma makes an account look more legit and it's thus more useful for spreading misinformation and/or guerilla marketing.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Same reason why people play cookie clicker, watch the useless number go up.

Also, some subs are downright hostile to people with low karma.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

I actually got auto-added to some bullshit sub that was "for people with so much karma." I don't remember what the number was, because it was such a useless sub that no one engaged with.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Some subreddits require a minimum karma score for posting. And it gets less likely to get shadow banned the more karma you have.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Ohhh right. I remember subs had that bullshit. I didnt know about the shadowban thing though.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In the age of A/B testing and automated engagement, I have to wonder who is really getting played? The people reading the synthetically generated bullshit or the people who think they're "getting engagement" on a website full of bots and other automated forms of engagement cultivation.

How much of the content creator experience is itself gamed by the website to trick creators into thinking they're more talented, popular, and well-received than a human audience would allow and should therefore keep churning out new shit for consumption?

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's ultimately about ad money. They haven't cared it's humans or bots either. They keep paying out either way. This predates long before the LLM era. It's bizarre.

It's pretty much a case of the POSIWID. The system is meant to be genuine human engagement. What the system does is artificial at every step. Turns out its purpose is to fabricate things for bots to engage with. And this is all propped up by people who for some reason pay to keep the system running.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

This reminds me of the ad supported games that advertise other ad supported games. I think I've even seen an ad supported game run an ad for itself.

I wonder if at some point people will walk away from these platforms and the platform and its owners won't even be able to tell.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 18 points 17 hours ago

Most people who have worked in customer service would believe every word because they have seen the absurdity of real people.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Shiri’s Scissor was supposed to be a cautionary tale...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

(Already said this before, but let me reiterate:)

Typical AITA post:

Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?

Body of post:

[5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]

I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?

Comments:

Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!

Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!

And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]


🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Typical AITA post:

"I want to do what I want with my own life. AITA?"

Everybody Sucks Here

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Man, sometimes when I finish grabbing something I needed from Reddit, I hit the frontpage (always logged out) just out of morbid curiosity.
Every single time that r/AmIOverreacting sub is there with the most obvious "no, you're not" situation ever.

I never once seen that sub show up before the exodus. AI or not, I refuse to believe any frontpage posts from that sub are anything other than made up bullshit.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Needs to feature both a wedding and a pregnancy and you've nailed it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

insert plot from an episode of Friends

AITAH?

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I asked my friend to help move a couch into my apartment but he got it stuck in the stairwell. AITAH?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I feel like we're collectively writing the custom instructions for this bot.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 18 hours ago

If it's well-written enough to be entertaining, it doesn't even matter whether it's real or not. Something like it almost certainly happened to someone at some point.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Way too many...

I was born before the Internet. The Internet is always lumped into the "entertainment" part of my brain. A lot of people that have grown up knowing only the Internet think the Internet is much more "real". It's a problem.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

I've come up with a system to categorize reality in different ways:

Category 1: Thoughts inside my brain formed by logics

Category 2: Things I can directly observe via vision, hearing, or other direct sensory input

Category 3: IRL Other people's words, stories, anecdotes, in face to face conversations

Category 4: Acredited News Media, Television, Newspaper, Radio (Including Amateur Radio Conversations), Telegrams, etc...

Category 5: The General Internet

The higher the category number, means the more distant that information is, and therefore more suspicious I am.

I mean like, if a user on Reddit (or any internet fourm or social media for that matter) told me X is a valid treatment for X disease without like real evidence, I'm gonna laugh in their face (well not their face, since its a forum, but you get the idea).

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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 80 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

Oh boy, identity mechanics to curb out the last vestiges of privacy.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

let me scan your eyeballs. it’s the only way

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago

Also doesn’t fix the problem at all, I can still just use AI to post to my main account

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're pretty much declaring a war on VPNs also

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 14 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Yep. More than half the time I can't access Reddit through Proton VPN.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I can. But i have an account.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 40 points 22 hours ago (4 children)
[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 minutes ago

At least one of you is real.

The other guy is me.

[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

There are at least 37 of us. Unless a bot posted this...

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[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 16 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

It’s stupidly easy to make up stuff on AITA and get upvotes/comments. I made up one just for fun and was surprised at how popular it got. Well, now not so much, but back when I did.

If you know the audience and what gets them upset, you’ve got easy karma farming.

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[–] Thrife@feddit.org 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Is reddit still feeding Googles LLM or was it just a one time thing? Meaning will the newest LLM generated posts feed LLMs to generate posts?

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

The truly valuable data is the stuff that was created prior to LLMs, anything after this is tainted by slop. Any verifiable human data would be worth more, which is why they are simultaneously trying to erode any and all privacy

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