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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Mangione has tapped into something most Americans share: a deep hatred of our health insurance system and of the profiteers who seem so indifferent to our suffering and death. He has still not been mentioned by Donald Trump, who must realize that Mangione’s fandom has no political boundaries.

Wow even DT can't touch this

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 22 hours ago

I mean could also go out like the guy who everyone would remember, who burned himself for some cause and everyone just forgot about him. Man, what a thing

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

marketing hirelings will sabotage the narrative with BS to make it go away.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They're gonna attempt to do so. There's no guarantee it will work.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Over advertising has inured most consumers to these practices. Especially younger ones.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

I know I certainly will be! 😊

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully he's the first of hundreds.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

What do you mean trump is a CEO?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (4 children)

the bullet etchings alone make it a work of art. He picked out the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america. Its very much a masterwork execution at a time when everybody wanted a reprieve from the trump media circus.

Timing: 10/10

Execution: 9/10

Target 10/10

Style: 10/10

We live in a country this happens every day I would take a CEO death over a Sandy Hook every time. I wish shootings weren't as common but it is what it is.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Personally I would appreciate the irony of school shooters instead going after gun manufacturer executives. I like my justice delivered ironically.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If we were the principled society we pretend to others that we are, we would prefer 100 ceos to 1 Sandy Hook. CEO's would be all for it as well.
But capitalism doesnt breed a lot of impulses to sacrifice for the greater good. "eff those peasants" is practically explicitely baked into it.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america.

Too bad that's not trump :(

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With my limited view from Germany, thank God that it is not Trump. Presidents come and go, Democrats and Republicans swap places every now and then, but at the end, the US stays an oligarchy. By killing Trump you don't change much, you might create a public outrage, but it's like popping a pimple without addressing the acne. It might lead to an even bigger divide within the working class - those who were fooled into voting for Trump vs Democrats vs disappointed, disillusioned Democrats. One of the problems of the election was that not enough left leaning people saw the Democrats as much different from the Republicans, and they are right. Killing a politician would just distract from the problem even more. Just think of how much momentum Trump (and his movement) gained from the assassination attempt.

Here, for once in months, when we see tiktoks or other clips from the public, we cannot even tell immediately where they lean politically - we just see that everyone is fed up with the same crap. Now both left and right, united, experience how the media lies to them and tells a skewed narrative. This is amazing. I sincerely hope it will not die, I hope this will grow and continue to spread like a cancer through society.

It is sad that it took the murder of a person and a young man's freedom for this.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No no, I didn't say I wish for him to be shot - that's for separate discussion - I just wish he was the most unloved. Daydreaming...

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't know. Trump is special. I'm hoping more "divine smiting' for him. For a man that so seems to have the Devil's charisma behind him, what more fitting end could there be than to die by lightning strike?

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 49 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Reminder that Luigi didn't do it

We support him, even if he's innocent.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 112 points 1 day ago (35 children)

This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.

This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”

This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.

This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.

No I didn’t read the article.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Having a wife and kids is not a free pass, and is no ethical shield. Fight me. Little Jimmy can cry about it in his nepo baby Ferrari.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage.

Given his falling out with his ex-wife and penchant for alcoholism, they're arguably better off without him, assuming he wasn't already a deadbeat dad.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 4 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.

Just curious, what do you mean by "gun arguments aside"?

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most definitely, he isn't the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true. They may be trying to rewrite the legacy of the CEO, but he was not "one of the good guys".

Although there is some crossover to the unibomber's manifesto, in the sense that where this would have been the breaking point in societies of the past waiting for a revolution, the new means of control and technology is being used to keep it under control, from all sides, even and specially those that abused social networks to put Trump in power. Can't have the status quo of "[I can] stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody [but not you]" challenged.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true.

By my math, Brian Robert Thompson killed 40,000 people.

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