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[–] WilloftheWest 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The good old ~~Narcissist's~~ Tankie's Prayer:

That didn't happen,

And if it did, it wasn't that bad,

And if it was, that's not a big deal,

And if it is, that's not my fault,

And if it was, that's Western propaganda,

And if it isn't, you deserved it.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net -2 points 1 year ago

Yes, slavers and exploiters deserve to suffer for slaving and exploiting.

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

This is such an uneducated take I'm convinced it's just trolling.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So true. Only neolibs have compassion for other people's suffering.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

This made me laugh so hard bro 🤣

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah yes, slavers and exploiters.

"peasants with a couple of cows or five or six acres [~2 ha] more than their neighbors" were labeled kulaks.

Not to mention the famine that followed this act of genius.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK lemmy user "ilovethebomb"

But yes, Kulaks were exploiters.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they had slightly more land than their neighbors? Or a business?

Cool, cool.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because they intentionally destroyed resources to fight collectivization (ie throwing a tantrum to avoid having to share with people with less than them), which while the process was admittedly mishandled ended up being a good thing in the long run.

Also I'm not just going to believe a Wikipedia article that anyone with even slightly more than others was labled a Kulak anyway.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ended up being a good thing in the long run.

They had a famine and millions died.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It wasn't caused by collectivization and I said "the long run".

That famine was the last one in the region. There had been famines in the region during the czar's time frequently.

[–] Bobby_DROP_TABLES@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It wasn't a famine, Stalin literally ate all of the food single-handedly with his massive spoon. Tankies like you will deny this.

[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

right? It says so much that all the people who hate communism are the ones who's businesses and family wealth were hurt - you will be looking for a while before you find an average person who lived under communism who hates communism.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, these people are really entitled. Stupid snobs who miss their electricity, warm and clean water and healthy food.

[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

literally every communist-led state ever saw faster electrification, sanitation, and agriculture development than any of their comparable peers (important). Please find me a single solitary example to the contrary. Also, please refrain from comparing Cuba and the USA or Vietnam and Finland like they're running in the same race, the real victories of communism are that it has outpaced any even remotely comparable nation in the same timespan despite sanctions and interference, not that a communist party can magically turn Haiti into Denmark in twenty years.

[–] LeLachs@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, there was one were things went so bad that they had to build a wall to keep people from leaving

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah and I'm sure that's the end of the story. There's no additional context to this story. Times and the problems faces by the government on that side of the wall were incredibly simple and there definitely wasn't any collusion on the other side of the wall to try to drive people to leave.

The logical first step to brain drain is definitely to build a wall. those damn commies just didn't understand how to use logic!

[–] LeLachs@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oh my bad. I'm sure the shoot to kill order on the eastern side was in place to keep the propaganda out.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 1 year ago

I know enough poor people from Cuba who don't want to go to USA level. Just basic humane living conditions would be all right.

On a higher level there are friends and family who have lost loved ones in east Germany. No, they weren't super poor. Just dead, when they tried to leave this incredibly free and democratic country because they wanted the food and medicine the people on the other side of the wall were enjoying.