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The reason Obamacare and Medicare won't be touched.

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That seems unreasonably optimistic.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

The pessimism comes in when you look at the way these are voting.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"....but I still gone vote for Trump, because I hate brown people more than I want insurance."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No one wants insurance. They want healthcare.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, but don't think RFKJr is the right man for the job.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The guy couldn't even be the right guy to work at McDonalds. It amazes me we have so many people in politics that could literally work nowhere else. They are essentially unemployable. These are our representatives...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Doubling our police budget to assist in the protection of health insurance management supply lines.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Government Responsibility

This subtle language choice is revealing. Start talking egalitarian political reform and all of a sudden "the Government" and "the People" are two different things: As if they are made up of, by, and for two different kinds of people.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Medicare will be touched. Let's not be naïve.

That said, I think a more interesting observation is that neither major political candidate ran with healthcare as a major issue. It clearly is.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is, people understand so little that they vote for the people who will do the opposite of what they want. Either that or their hatred of other people eclipses their desire to live in a well-run country.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If only voters actually felt that way too.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If only we didn't have two right wing parties and a first past the post system.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If only we had the option of politicians who saw it that way.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

The key thing for the incoming fascist regime is that they don't have to dismantle or make a big show of taking away people's healthcare, they just have to do smaller things to allow it to "fail" and then blame [current demonized group].

This is what they have been doing to education for years, and people complain about the system and not the people behind its purposeful sabotage.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

It seems like everyone knows the problem, but no one knows why the problem is.

I know too many people who voted for Trump because they're "against billionaires.", failing to understand he's like the definitve caricature of billionaires.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if @Rapidcreek@lemmy.world meant this with their subtitle, but this percentage is too low to foment change but maybe will keep our barely functional but better than nothing current systems. Hopefully we can surpass that historical 69% number.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I didn't catch that but OK 🫣

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If there is anything Congress critters hate it is voting against a rising tide. It's not good for your reelection chances. The popular opinion on health care is a rising tide.

Good point. I will be working to raise a variety of tides!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

If there is anything Congress critters hate it is voting against a rising tide.

The only thing they hate more is voting against moneyed interests.