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[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Can I bring my dog and my asexual life partner? It's okay none of us can breed and I'm volcel anyway.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago

CHINA is SHOOTING at INNOCENT WESTERNERS with MONEY and JOBS!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Wait fuck if I finish my degree I can escape???

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

Fucken a you can. One of my highschool friends is a world-top-tier mathematician and he's spent most of his adult life working in China doing work way below his capabilities just because he gets to be left alone and live outside of the western hegemony. Mufucka turned me on to communism when we were like 12. It's a shame really, in a better world he'd be the sort of mind that could solve serious fucking problems. But I think he's mostly happy with how things have panned out.

The only downside is it's hard for ex-pat workers to have true security in China (or has been, might've changed VERY recently) due to restrictive visas and few pathways to full citizenship for westoids.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 5 points 1 hour ago

I mean, they are still taking pretty much anyone with a bachelor's degree as an English teacher in China, Vietnam, Thailand, SA, Korea, Japan, etc. Just get a TEFL/TESOL certificate and it shouldn't be hard to find a job that will get you a work visa in another country.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago

maybe the West shouldn't have done massive sweeping industry-wide layoffs then

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 43 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, that's disgusting! Where would someone go to get bombarded with these tech job offers? You know, so I can avoid them?

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 7 points 1 hour ago

Beware

spoilergoogle China job board and you can find plenty of jobs to apply to https://jobs.echinacities.com/ https://www.hiredchina.com/jobs https://www.laowaicareer.com/

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Surely, this is just a case where the invisible hand of the free market will be trusted to solve this issue without any intervention from Western governments and those aligned with them, no?

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago

Free markets BTFO

[–] xj9@hexbear.net 22 points 3 hours ago

Tell me where and how and I'll sign the fuck up

[–] Goblin@hexbear.net 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have any marketable skills but you could hire me as a western jester. If you tell me to dance like a monkey I'll do it. Please China, please 🥺

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 1 points 50 minutes ago

If you tell me to dance like a monkey I'll do it.

Can you afford to get there on a tourist visa? I forget the name for "white monkey" jobs but there's an industry (and I think still demand) for sure. Also just about any university qualification can get you an English teaching job in a bunch of actually-existing-communism countries still. I know that's out of reach for most people but fuck it, if you leave after graduation who's gonna try and debt collect the loans? lol

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I have heard of Africans who got jobs with Chinese companies. Doubt it’ll ever happen in Guatemala with our lack of tech talent lol

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

I suspect China will be courting your country too soon enough. Even if it won't be offshore work they're investing in infrastructure all over the planet. I love to see it.

The west, honestly, is shitting BRICS right now. The US dollar is no longer the uhh, idk what the word is, you know "lingua franca of finance" for the whole globe. New systems are emerging to replace everything being pegged to the US dollar and the price of oil. Crypto currency, funnily enough, is likely to have a big part to play in neutering the ability of the failing empire to do any effective sanctions very very soon, but also there's stuff to do with distributed financial resiliency based on traditional local currencies. I don't understand it but I think QAnon or Trillbillies or Buntavista did a very recent podcast episode on this.

World's changing, comrades. Really fast. It's going to be a wild couple of decades to come.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Be the change you want to see in the world! I don’t think anyone would stereotype Africa as a hub of tech talent either

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

Why did I graduate art school and not tech. It's like I'm trying to not have a job

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What can a tech mediocrity get?

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago

Fyi if you're from the West it's highly likely you'd hate working in China in the tech industry, it is a grind, even the none 996 companies

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 hours ago

Was looking here the other day incidentally, looks like there are a bunch of jobs of all kinds https://www.echinacities.com/

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 51 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

a friend of mine was telling me about some friend of his who went to grad school in China right after college. i dunno if it was even tech, but he had studied mandarin in undergrad.

his first several years, he would comeback for the holidays and big family stuff. then he got some job there. over the years he would return less and less, until eventually he just stopped coming back to the US.

can you imagine? it sounds like something out of a fairy tale.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 29 points 4 hours ago

sounds like something out of a NYTimes propaganda piece tbh. RIP your friend, the CCP got to him

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 9 points 3 hours ago

Please choose me next xi, #SOSUSA

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Staff with access to sensitive Zeiss know-how received LinkedIn messages, emails and calls from Huawei representatives, offering them up to three times their salaries to join the Chinese company, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

3x? LOL ok if they came to me with that id be willing to degrade myself for the position. xi pls

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 20 points 4 hours ago

Also, it's 3x typical tech wages. Even outside the typical tech hubs, that's still a high paying position, and you'd be making that much in a country with a massively lower COL.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

kiryu-slam

I shouldn’t have ghosted that recruiter a few years back

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 35 points 5 hours ago

cap-think : "Whoa....I'm richer than ever...I have been having the best past five years of my life! I think....I think...."

capitalist-laugh: "I'll fire everyone and have those that remain pick up the slack, clearly I don't need so many workers!"

xi-god-emperor: "Hello western tech workers, did you get burned by porky? Here, come work with us."

porky-scared-flipped: "Whoa whoa whoa....that's MY reserve army of labor to sit on and do nothing with!"

[–] NotThatKindOfFedPosting@hexbear.net 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

State funding for Chinese companies enables them to offer salaries beyond what Western companies can pay.

bean-think

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 hours ago

but muh free markets!

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago
[–] Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

How dare they not follow along with western tech's wage fixing agreements!

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 43 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

The West has been poaching talents from the Global South since the past century, luring them with strong currencies like the dollar and euro, and at the same time still manage to use them to drive down the wages of domestic labor because immigrant workers are willing to work much harder at a lesser pay that is still relatively lucrative compared to their home country’s salary.

Global South countries have spent innumerable resources and decades of effort to cultivate their best and brightest youth and gifted them scholarships to study overseas at top universities in the West. Many of them would get job offers in Western companies and chose to stay there. The West gets to poach all these talents at virtually no cost.

Make no mistake, this is a form of financial imperialism - the use of its strong currency to create brain drains in the Global South, which further impedes the latter’s ability to develop their own technological and economic sovereignty.

Every year, nearly 600-700k Chinese students go abroad to study in the US alone, and many of them hoping to get their green cards eventually and living out an American dream. If it weren’t for the blatant racism and forcing more and more Chinese students and workers to return from overseas, it would have been a brain drain on China’s part, to the benefit of the American empire!

EDIT: as pointed out below, 600-700k is the number of all Chinese students who went overseas every year. The peak in US was ~370k in 2020, then after COVID dropped to ~260k in 2023.

[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Your number of Chinese students that go to the U$ does not match the info I can find, most stuff I see says ~280k/year. There has been a pretty large drop over the past few years, and the number peaked before COVID. This drop in students has caused funding issues for U$ universities, as foreign students pay a lot more in tuition than domestic ones.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 45 minutes ago

pretty large drop over the past few years

Yeah the unis in my country are having a big cry about it because they spent the last 20 years increasing executive salaries and not doing much else so without the constant and growing cashflow they're kind of fucked.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You are correct. The 600-700k is the number of Chinese students who went overseas, not just in the US. It’s also dropped in the US as you said, before COVID it was ~370k students who went to the US in 2020.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

Also don't forget the US (the entire Imperial Core, really) make conditions in the Global South unsafe, forcing people to migrate the only place that's safe: the Global North. Then they gatekeep and only let the wealthy or educated in.

They exterminate the underclass while siphoning capital and brain power, making the situation worse in a feedback loop. Isreal has the same strategy to try and force Jews into moving there. Spread antisemitism abroad, then claim to be the only safe place for Jews.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 hours ago

It's a brilliant use of their dollar reserves. Ya know, beyond issuing bonds in USD

god i wish that were me

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 54 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love to be poached but I'm afraid I'm just tech, no talent.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 14 points 5 hours ago
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 6 hours ago

Me please I am tech

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

, another banger

[–] redline@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 6 hours ago

i request bombardment by job offer, yes on my position please. danger close is a risk im willing to take

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 32 points 6 hours ago

Poach me please

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 6 hours ago

Lol stupid the west

[–] Quexotic@hexbear.net 31 points 7 hours ago

I guess that's the natural outcome of underpayment. The west should be freaking out.

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