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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

    What the actual fuck are you smoking?

    At least update this meme to the 2010s if you won't go to the 2020s

    [–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    get an antivirus that actually works and then use either policy plus or group policy to delay windows updates

    Delay feature updates by 365 days

    Delay quality updates by 30 days

    semi-annual channel

    Disable preview builds

    then use O&O shutup10 ++ to disable the bullshit and you're golden.

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    [–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    I haven't had a DLL issue in Windows in like 20 years.

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

    i love when i need to search for dll files

    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

    Open terminal

    See whether the app is in my distro's repos, flathub, or snapcraft (It's not)

    Go on the internet, search up the app's name

    Download the AppImage (might be a virus)

    LibFuse2 is not installed (fuck me)

    Install LibFuse2

    Install Gearlever to integrate AppImage into my desktop

    I can finally launch the app

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

    > doesn't use arch/nix

    "why cant i find my package in the repos?"

    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    Ah yes, downloading builds from unvetted third parties and running their installers as root. Truly the Linux way.

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    and this is different to windows how ...?

    u do realize that u can (and should) read the PGKBUILD file? and check the git url which it's cloning. or check the sha if its a binary package.

    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 15 hours ago

    Most windows stuff can be installed as non-admin these days.

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    [–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Fuck, I hate AppImages so much. Never heard of gearlever, thanks i hope this helps a lot.

    Edit: Ok Gearlever is pretty great! Now I can finally open Heroic normally. That pissed me off for so long.

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    [–] twinnie 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

    Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

    [–] abfarid@startrek.website 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    This applies to pretty much all "Linux good, Win/MacOS bad" memes. I just assume that people either aren't really serious about them and it's just tongue in cheek, or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    I used to work as a(n assistant to the) sysadmin and the things I got called over never stopped to amaze. For instance, there was a case when software was updated on the work machines and I got called because some lady couldn't use Adobe Acrobat. "It is asking me something, I don't know what". I come over and it's just a TOS Accept/Decline window.

    Some people do not understand computers to an extent that they can lock up in a state of confusion when a button has been moved 100px in any direction from its usual position.

    [–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    This gets my vote, the memes are so disconnected from reality they feel forced and not funny

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    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine

    Maybe this is a problem that we should be addressing, rather than just making technology more of a black box, and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works.

    [–] NoFun4You@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Lots of people don't care enough to learn

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    [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Unless you have a system without a GUI, you don't need to open a terminal in order to update or install stuff. There is a GUI for that. And no, you don't need to build stuff from GitHub for normal user stuff..

    [–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Not using the terminal is like buying a race car and not using the higher gears. I mean, you can, but what's the fucking point?

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    [–] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    been using linux for a few years both on servers and my pc and I never had to build sth myself

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    WinGet: Am I a joke to you?

    [–] brianary@startrek.website 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    WinGet, choco, scoop, &c, they all have strengths and weaknesses, which is why I had to write this: https://github.com/brianary/scripts/blob/main/Update-Everything.ps1

    It's also why I use Linux at home.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    You need to update a bunch of separate things on Linux too, though. For example, apt or dnf, rpms and debs that aren't in a repo (although Deb-get handles some of those), Flatpak, Snap, fwupd for firmware, plus language-specific things (npm, dotnet, cargo, Python, etc). At least the UIs handle a lot of it now.

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    Winget-ui is great, except Microsoft hasn't figured out to conceptually make two installs of the same product get treated the same -- absolutely pathetic that if you install VLC from their website you can never ever ever use Winget VLC without uninstalling the other.

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    [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 day ago (20 children)

    No restart require on Linux is a joke, right? Because I get updates that require restarts as often as I get them on Windows when updating Mint.

    [–] Camille@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Unless you're updating the kernel itself, there is little chance you actually need to reboot your machine. Just restarting whatever service or application you're using should do the trick.

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    [–] GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

    Yep. Every kernel update. Granted that's less often than Windows requires a reboot.

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    [–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

    somepackage requires otherpackage version >10.1.79

    otherpackage is already at latest version

    Have fun compiling it yourself and messing up what is managed by the package manager and what's not. And don't forget that the update might break some other package along the way

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    [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Tbh, with stuff like Winget and the respective GUI apps the process for installing or upgrading software is pretty much the same nowadays.

    [–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Genuinely the only people who use Winget or choco are Linux users who have to use Windows.

    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 2 points 20 hours ago

    Or anyone that does automation. Pretty much any Windows sysadmin.

    [–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I don't know about all the arguing and snark, but... I've been using Ubuntu (laugh it up) on my work laptop for the last 3ish years, and the vast majority of the time it really is "click install updates. wait 2 minutes. ok every program on your computer is up to date, just don't forget to restart Firefox". Can't think of a time where updating sucked. Sometimes I even go through the terminal just because it makes me feel cool to be a hackerman.

    I dread updating my windows pc at home. Cuts into my WoW time too much.

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