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[–] soiejo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This just reminded me that the transformers wiki has a page on Jesus Christ and it's written using solely information you can gather from the cartoons, as if the page author never heard of Jesus outside of the series

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Jesus is presumably a human, but no facts are directly known about him, only other people's claims. For example, Sam Witwicky and his teacher both agree that, if Jesus were in the teacher's shoes, he would give the boy a dishonestly inflated grade to trick Sam's father into buying Sam a car.

Holy shit this is great

Another persistent rumor is that Jesus once died and came back to life. Given this (and the fact that he has only been referred to in dialogue, never established in person), he may simply be a metaphor for Optimus Prime.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's written using solely information you can gather from the cartoons, as if the page author never heard of Jesus outside of the series

New bit idea, always write pages on fan wikis as if you lived in that fictional world.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Pretty normal for a fan wiki of a setting. They want to verisimilitude of reading "wikipedia" from that setting. The technical notes and DVD making of notes are sometimes there, but tend to get way less play than describing what a character did in an episode in the style of Wikipedia.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 4 points 22 hours ago

Oh shit that rules

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like how if you dig into this, it boils down to "a 10 year old RPG sourcebook said this one Gran planet was cool and space communist"

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's funny, because that entire RPG line (the Fantasy Flight Star Wars RPG) provided a lot of good material for worldbuilding obsessed nerds - it's often the only cited material for a lot of what you would think are important concepts (like socialism). They're usually cool about the socialist, labor rights, and liberation stuff in the setting, certainly more so than cringe didney stuff that makes "anarchists wot believe in nothing" central villains.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FFG was making a lot of great SW tabletop stuff during the 2010s. I liked the X-Wing dogfight game quite a bit. Never had an RPG group during those years, but that sounds like a dope one!

They're usually cool about the socialist, labor rights, and liberation stuff in the setting, certainly more so than cringe didney stuff that makes "anarchists wot believe in nothing" central villains.

That's more on the Marvel side of Disney, right? Maybe I'm too live-slug-reaction soypoint-2 whenever Saw Gererra comes on the screen to realize you're supposed to think he's "too extreme" or whatever

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh that's not even getting into Saw! Check out his fallen order portrayal for that "too extreme doesnt care about anything" stuff. I meant these clowns https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nihil

The RPG system is great though, possibly my favorite all around - fun mechanics, depth for people who want to get into it, and super accessible for new players.

Lots of resources online like https://star-wars-rpg-ffg.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_RPG_(FFG)_Wiki

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 2 points 17 hours ago

I nearly forgot about his appearance in Fallen Order lol.

I meant these clowns https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nihil

I'm a fake fan and never got into the High Republic stuff lol. Can you at least headcannon it as "these dorks are being viewed through the lens of the radical centrist Jedi order"?

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His fallen order portrayal, his clone wars portrayal, his rogue one portrayal…

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's cool in...Andor? At least not portrayed as a cartoonish "madman"

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Andor is the best Star Wars. No other sw has had a character say “everyone is a liberal except me”

best star was convo

Luthen: Think of it. Think of Spellhaus in flames. Neither of you could do it on your own, but together-

Saw: Kreegyr’s a Separatist. Maya Pei’s a Neo-Republican. The Ghorman Front. The Partisan Alliance? Sectorists! Human cultists! Galaxy partitionists! They’re lost, all of them lost! Lost. What are you Luthen? I’ve never really known. What are you?

Luthen: I’m a coward. I’m a man who’s terrified the Empire’s power will grow beyond the point where we can do anything to stop it. I’m the one who says, “We’ll die with nothing if we don’t put aside our petty differences.”

Saw: Petty? I am the only one with clarity of purpose.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

god that show added a richness to Star Wars that i really didn't think was possible

maybe we'll have a genre in the distant FALGC future that's just like "treats of the past, but really well written and performed"

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Andor is the best Star Wars thing ever put to screen

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

As is tradition with Wookieepedia.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] utopologist@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thanks, Wookieepedia (from the "Shower" page)

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes Master Windu's ass was stinky, other times not very-smart

[–] utopologist@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I read theory

[–] roux@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Gotta hit that word count.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hold up, let me grab my reading glasses

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Oh so that's where the emote comes from

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

Kylo Ren had noticeable chest muscles beneath his breasts.

In his grandpa pants with his manboobs looking very respectful trump-anguish

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

lmao I know for a fact the top image on that page used to be Aayla Secura, when did they change it?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lmao why does it have an extensive list of citations?

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Half of the citations are "some Glup Shitto called the bathroom a thing regular people call it"

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

I really enjoy the non-canon appearances of "Refresher."

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a shower—or sonic shower, sanisteam or turboshower—a bath—or sonic bath or ripple bath

You can't just add sci fi words to a thing and pretend it's a new thing!

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm using my kinetic aqua ass blaster (bidet)

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Star Wars is just fascist propaganda at this point, right? Like I'm not insane and the stormtrooper parades at Disney are real?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, its decidedly anti-fascist, however it fills the role of anti-fascist roleplay. It allows the consumer to participate in a kind of anti-fascist display and then defuse any true anti-fascist sentiment they might be harboring.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

The only Special Edition change I really liked was when they added other planets reacting with celebrations to the empire’s downfall. I always see that and imagine the global south reacting that way when it’s clear the American Empire or one of its lackeys like Israel have fallen

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's called interpassivity, I think zizek popularized the term lol and then Fisher used it too, it's a very useful categorisation

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Chapter 2 of Capitalist Realism:

A film like Wall-E exemplifies what Robert Pfaller has called ‘interpassivity’: the film performs our anti-capitalism for us, allowing us to continue to consume with impunity. The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does, but to conceal the fact that the operations of capital do not depend on any sort of subjectively assumed belief. It is impossible to conceive of fascism or Stalinism without propaganda – but capitalism can proceed perfectly well, in some ways better, without anyone making a case for it.

When you are in Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge at Disney watching the Stormtroopers march past, you might also witness cast members performing acts of anti-fascist behavior. You might even be encouraged to join in. This gives your expensive trip an air of anti-fascist ideology while also signaling to you that the systems which bring you this display must also be anti-fascist as well. Stalin surly wouldn't have tolerated anti-socialist activity after all, and that's what sets our system apart from theirs. Capitalism invites you to be anti-capitalist, that's how you know it's a superior system.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

George Lucas said himself the Empire was based on the American Empire with some well-placed Nazi aesthetics mixed in

So it's not surprising Americans and corporate marketers alike would identify with space America

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think in that same interview he said he really liked Soviet movies, and how the directors in the Soviet Union or AES, could basically film whatever they wanted as long as it didn't criticize the goverment too much and they didn't film illegal stuff. He also called Disney white slavers, and that he was inspired by a bunch of guerrila movements, but specially the Vietcong, to create the rebel alliance.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reenacting the Battle on Ferrix by throwing a pipe bomb into the Disneyworld stormtrooper parade