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Sometimes a visual is nice just to help hammer home just how bad things have gotten in parts of the United States. We've got a lot of fighting left to do for trans rights.

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[–] PorkTaco@beehaw.org 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never understood how the "keep the government out of my life" party is also the "I disagree with the way you live your life so I'm going to ban your very existence" party. Do they not see the hypocrisy? What a complete and utter lack of self awareness.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conservatism has exactly one position, and understanding it will provide consistency to the entire political philosophy:

"The government must protect but not bind my group, and it must bind but not protect those not in my group."

[–] Azzu@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's actually even simpler imo, "the government should do only and exactly what is convenient for me personally, everything else is irrelevant"

"I don't want to look at those weird trans people, just get them out of my sight", so whatever achieves that is fine with them.

[–] karbotect@vlemmy.net 5 points 1 year ago

The more conservatism, the more you go towards feudalism. Where staying poor and obedient for the rich elite is your godgiven duty. Monopolies need to be protected, as they act with god's mandate. Social rights are being formulated by a religious figurehead.

If every American exclusively votes for Conservatives for the next 100 years, America will revert to a confederation of Anglican and Catholic kingdoms.

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's the same party that thinks life is sacred and is also pro death penalty.

[–] Snapz@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

No "think" in the approach

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can’t see the hypocrisy, because to them, it isn’t hypocrisy. They’re simply enforcing gods law, and gods law is beyond question. There’s no “argument” to be had.

Faith is maddening to rational thinkers for that reason.

To them, it’s as fundamental as gravity. If someone won’t accept something as simple and obvious as gravity, then they’re the one with the problem.

[–] LucyLastic@beehaw.org 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It feels odd to see it laid out graphically, the culture wars really are cutting the US up into bits.

I feel so bad for trans people living there now, and also worried that the far right here in Europe is relentlessly trying the same tactics too (though with less success over all, they've made headway).

[–] BurnTheRight@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't blame culture wars. I blame conservatism. Conservatism is a plague of oppression, sickness and death. It always has been.

It should be socially acceptable to call out fascism in public. Smiling politely and turning the other cheek is how we ended up with this infestation of conservative hatred.

[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Culture wars are a direct result of conservatism, so it makes sense to target the tap root, not the leaves.

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[–] detectivemittens@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I’m really disturbed to see far right parties getting small victories and gaining footholds in parts of Europe. I’m terrified about the increasing possibility that all of the west will be dangerous for queer people again.

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, my god. I'm cis-gender but this map looks like some dystopian shithole. It's so surreal, something you should never have to see outside of tv shows like The Handmaid's Tale.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's why I feel it's important to share things like this. The trans community knows how bad things are, but I'm not sure the populace as a whole understands how dire our situation is right now.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fact, thinking about this inspired me to go on a bit of a rant on Mastodon. https://retro.pizza/@UngodlyAudrey/110606237101536700

[–] IntheTreetop@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a damn fine rant that I wish a lot more people would see. Thank you for speaking your mind about it and...whatever it's worth, I'm sorry you have to try an exist alongside these knuckle-dragging hate-mongers.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[–] loops@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your work. o7

[–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Take a look at the 2020 presidential election map and compare it to this one. There’s very little difference.

[–] pastelsquirrel@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago

this is honestly incredibly heartbreaking. I'm glad MA is safe but holy hell.

(sidenote: the transphobes have found this post and are trying to stir up their hate. be sure to do your duty and block, report and move on)

[–] Nikku772@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moving from FL soon. Fuck this place. Even just as a ally I can’t stand being surrounded by crazy gator fucking bigots. Now I’m born and raised in FL so I like a good gator pussy as much as any FL, but this my point stands.

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[–] BurnTheRight@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Conservatives should be excluded from one's daily life wherever possible. It is not appropriate to do business with or keep relationships with bigots, racists, misogynists and xenophobes.

Conservatism is a harmful ideology of hate and oppression. It should be openly discouraged and shunned.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Dark times. Trans was barely a blip on the hate radar a decade ago. Obvious manipulation. When you start asking why the answers get scary.

[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago

Any mofo that has had a role in pushing this wave of trans and lavender panic has blood on their hands. In a just world, they would feel the pain that their bullshit has been causing.

I’m cis, so it’s our duty to call this shit out wherever we see it. Keep in mind that we’re dealing with fascists, and they don’t respond to reason.

[–] SaintLavellan@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

This map breaks my heart.

[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish I could move from Texas.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SapphicFemme@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Odd that a organization aimed at moving people at risk of legal or other physical safety risks would organize or work over unnecrypred discord. You'd think a serious organization would use Element/matrix or signal to communicate securly, very alarming.

[–] reric88@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I wish I could move from Kentucky, as well...

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

florida's "Do Not Travel" status is grim. Something has to be done

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] koalateatime@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You joke but there are trans people in conservative states, and in the south those people are more likely to be people of color and/or people without means to leave.

I understand you likely didn’t mean it that way, but often we get dismissive of the south as a hellhole (which it is) without taking into account the people who actually live there who are disenfranchised and victimized by their own states.

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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

more like "federal occupation"

[–] Callie@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we do literally have guns and a second amendment for this very reason. or y'know, we do an ol' classic french move

[–] LukeForNM@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago
[–] Curious_Canid@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I'm glad to be in a small pocket of relative sanity in the northern midwest, but that map is appalling.

I had the bright idea to go looking for what pro-hate laws Oklahoma has. Didn't find a list, only found evil and sadness.

If they'd help us leave most or all of us would probably just go. No, that's not good enough, they want to torture and kill us. frustrated sadness noises

[–] koalateatime@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

The 5-4 podcast has a very insightful episode on the history and actual effects of the anti-trans laws. Highly recommend!

[–] Callie@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

thats depressing

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

The state retains the power to investigate an individual's birth gender to determine if a crime has been committed simply by using the bathroom - investigations that could involve genital exams, chromosome testing, and more.

This does not only affect trans people. Florida is "do not travel" for EVERYONE.

[–] loops@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Zoe Keating's 'Lost' keeps playing in my head when I read about shit like this.

[–] snowbell@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder where the best place to be a transgender gun owner is these days.

[–] karbotect@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

New Mexico, New Hampshire or Maine I guess

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