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Oz, who has a history of making degrading remarks about women, has no government experience. As a candidate for Senate in 2022, he expressed opposition to abortion at any point in pregnancy.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 161 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I see a pattern, it's the people he watches for years on TV and likes who he puts into leading positions.

To be honest this seems in character for the USA, this is what the american people are often doing too, putting celebrities from movies and TV in charge of their country, case in point Reagan, Schwarzeneger and Trump.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You can kick and scream but Trump really is the embodiment of America.

[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can and I will continue to make a fuss about it, but goddamn it, you're not wrong. He really is.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

He’s the embodiment of America but dammit some of us really thought our country might be willing to attempt being better.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had a look at the list you linked and was surprised to see the list pointing out Germans and Polish people so I looked a bit dealer.

The German guy was in the left party which is so small that they always have trouble to get over the 5℅ necessary to be in the Bundestag, so he has never been in any leading position. And even the nomination to become president failed. And even if he became a president, in Germany that is not a leading position, a president just represents a country like a King.

In Poland, for Lech Kaczyński (who was the president of Poland) the wikipedia article down not even mention his work as an actor. On IMDB 4 entries are there. He was voice acting for a animated movie as a 13 years old and this is the biggest of the movies he was involved. The next next is a documentary, so he is not acting. The next one is a special episode of a game show to which politicians have been invited as participants. So no acting here either.

The next from Poland Jarosław Kaczyński, the twin brother also only had the voice acting as a 13 years old and documentaries where he didn't act listed on his IMDB page.

The third and last polish guy in the lis fits the description of a celebrity and politician in power, he was elected into parlament.

For Sweden nobody is listed. Same for South Korea. So from the countries I lived in my feeling that this doesn't happen is supported by the list you linked.

But other Asian countries, god damn! The lists for India, the Philippines and so on are soooo long! I didn't expect it. So it's really different in different countries.

[–] Blackmist 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But then the list misses people like Boris Johnson, who was on telly a bit and became mayor of London and eventually PM of the UK mostly because of that.

He was awful at both roles, but people voted for him anyway because they'd heard of him.

I think people in general are politically unaware. It's stuffy and boring, but affects everything. They should care, but it's very hard to make them.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes the list is only about Actors, even Donald Trump is not in that list. Still an interesting list.

[–] Blackmist 3 points 4 days ago

I guess if your whole life is an act, people forget.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"it's ok because other people do it" is not a good argument.

Also, the scale of any activity subject to that excuse is relevant. Many electorates occasionally act weird, some electorates are notorious for the same acts.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The tone of the post I was replying to was 'Look at these silly Americans, doing silly American things'; I was just pointing out that it's not exclusively an American thing. Not saying it's good.

Zelenskyy was the first one that came to my mind and I was actually just looking for how to properly spell his name (is it 1 y or 2? Various sources use one or the other and there's no consistency), and found that page linked from his Wikipedia page (which lists it as 2 ys, for the record), so I linked to it instead of just naming Zelenskyy as my example.

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Judge Judy is his next SC pick isn't she?

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[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Didn't Arnie do a decent job, though? I didn't live in California during his time in office, but it sounded mostly positive.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As I understand it, Arnie is actually fairly intelligent, and also surrounded himself with competent people who knew how to do the jobs he asked of them.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Yeah. He got a bunch of parks built, and a bunch of other things to improve basic qol.

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[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be honest I was very worried that he would assign competent and evil people to his cabinet positions. Somewhat relieved that he has only appointed clowns so far.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You forget clowns are much more dangerous when there are no adults in the room.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also this is Oprah’s fault. Trump only knows this guy from TV

Yeah, in all seriousness, fuck Oprah completely. Stalwart proponent of grifters, pedophiles, and rapists.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The US is officially a joke.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 35 points 4 days ago

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀🌌

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (6 children)

We've been a joke for a long time. We the people are finally learning the rest of the world isn't laughing with us...

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

After marking this latest square on my bingo card, it formed a pentagram and a demon is trying to claw it's way out of the free space. Please help.

[–] BobbyGasoline@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

No, let him. He is trying to help us.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Thank you Oprah, very cool!

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Bet she didn't see this coming when she was promoting this hack.

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[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Nothing surprises me anymore. Reap what you sow americans.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah as a non-American I honestly just don't have the energy to be worried/outraged about what's going on in the US anymore. I've essentially been fretting about America since George W. Bush took office, and it just keeps getting worse. Now they've handed the presidency, house, senate, supreme court and the popular vote to Trump I just... don't have it in me to engage in four more years of people endlessly tweeting about the horrible shit Trump is doing, while nobody does anything about it. Not to mention the decades afterwards it'll take to clean this all up, if that's even possible.

Sorry to all the Americans who didn't vote for this. Good luck.

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's both amazing ams shocking to watch from an outside perspective. On one hand, they ficked up and need to eat it. On the other hand, this shit will affect the world over time, so that means their fuckup is masterfully large.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Obligatory reply that it’s no less amazing and shocking when you’re watching it from the inside.

No less confusing either. I just have to hope that it’s more ignorance than malice, but the two often go hand in hand.

[–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The result of the "Golden Age of Television"

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Ok but the golden age of television is when tv stopped being constrained to news, sports, unintelligent serials, or the occasional series of one off episodes with a brain like twilight zone and Star Trek. It’s the era in which it stopped being exceptional for a tv show to have artistic merit thanks to the rise in expectations of continuity from episode to episode. It’s the least dumb tv has ever been.

This is the product of social media and the failure of the education system

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

It almost seems like he is assembling a heist team. Oh wait...

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 4 days ago

Dr. Oz might be the most competent pick by the new Administration yet. This tells you a lot about the competence of all the other picks.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In my opinion, as an outside observer, I'd say it is the duty of every patriotic American to mass produce signs that say "THIS COUNTRY IS RUN BY IDIOTS" and post them everywhere.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

We all knew it’s run by idiots. That’s what “by the people” means.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ugh. Somebody totally fucking called this the other day.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It was me. Sort of, I figured he’d be Surgeon General. I fucking hate this.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Well CUT IT OUT, then!

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Fuggin clown shoes.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Next up on FarceNews: Trump's newest picks to include Cap'n Crunch (Secretary of Defense), Scrooge McDuck (Treasury), and Smokey the Bear (Education).

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Oh look, the hilarious consequences of our own actions. Hey pensioners, I hope this was what you had in mind if you voted R!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I only know Dr Oz from what I've seen on reddit. Which usually isn't a good sign.

OTOH, wasn't Trump expected to gut Medicare and Medicaid anyway? So he won't be able to do much damage.

[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'm looking at my bingo list and I have Hulk Hogan and Anthony Hopkins looking to be picked up for a department.

In real news, there is a certain sub somewhere on the Internet that isn't too crazy about some of the picks. Kind of interesting

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The dude that killed all those dogs?

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[–] 01011@monero.town 5 points 4 days ago

The Onion/InfoWars?

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