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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (3 children)

God how true this is for all the America bad people

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Lemmy has wayyyy to many people who can't understand that America bad ≠ China good.

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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gets it in one.

There's a reason everyone is currently demonizing liberal ideology instead of standing up for the rights that the conservatives are working to strip away.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Liberal ideology is a regressive conservative ideology.

It was progressive three centuries ago. It's not anymore, it's outlived it's usefulness.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 20 points 1 week ago

Noooooo I want the empire that hides all the bad things they do so I don't have to think about it while I drive my SUV and buy Starbucks!!!! /s

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Idk man, I feel like a lot of us "America bad" people are from Europe and don't support China or Russia either.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's why I don't support governments or countries, I support people and anarchist liberation movements :3

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Peace, Justice, and Anarchy

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 22 points 1 week ago

Only bad dragons 😉

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly! I'm so tired of being accused of being a liberal and/or a fascist every single time I note that China or Russia isn't some perfect leftist utopia, but in fact just another empire that is a pain in the ass not only to other countries but also their own citizens.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (42 children)

China is a fascist ethnostate, Russia is another neoliberal capitalist state, North Korea IMO cannot be described as socialist, Vietnam is pretty cool but mixed and only partially socialist, Cuba is not great tbh just in general, Venezuela is horrible, the Nordic states are just Social Democrat states, Israel has multiple worker co-ops but that doesn't change the fact that they're still a genocidal ethnostate, that just about covers all the tankie countries.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

Russia has long reached the end state of neoliberal capitalism, fascism. The US is currently transitioning.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's something that really bothers me about communism and socialism being derisive in the US, even in 2024, about 35 years after USSR fell.

The alternative to community-centric society is autocracy, typically devolving into monarchism.

Death to monarchists!

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[–] leaf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (30 children)

Tankies support the more problematic empires such as Russia and China.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you not read the meme? Imperialism is bad no matter who is doing it, and arguing over which empire is more 'problematic' is counterproductive, as we should oppose all empires instead of wasting all of our time and effort on getting on each other's throats.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And in doing so they may have pushed large parts of the Chinese-American community to the right. Tankies caping for the CCP were not a good look for the moderate immigrants who had been fucked over by the Chinese government in various ways.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I also noted this was a problem with the Rebel Alliance (who just supports a republic of oligarchs), and was called a centrist for my efforts.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] laserm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

We conquering Cartage with this one 🔥🔥🔥

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