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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/bqm_Iq8rFeg?t=16

"Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." Gene Roddenberry had the perfect response.

"No, by the 24th century, no one will care."

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let it be known, however, that Gene did say this after aggressively petitioning against Patrick Stewart as Captain. His baldness was specifically mentioned. According to Patrick anyway

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

well, he didn't mention that in the bloody video. I blame Patrick Stewart for making me look like a fool.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Patrick has been telling this story for a while at the panels, Frakes and others will tell it too. Sometimes it comes with that caveat and sometimes not. I'll see if I can find the clip where he talks about that.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Meanwhile Shatner was stealing half a dozen of Kirk's toupées every season...

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Why is Barclay disabled. Unless being a perv is a disability.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also what disabilities do Julian and Tilly have?

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

He appears to be on the spectrum

Holodeck addiction is a disability I guess

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 27 points 3 days ago

The point about accomodation is the key here.

If being born without functioning legs isn't actually an impediment or challenge because society makes allowances for people without legs, then it's no longer a handicap!

If a blind person has options beyond merely having their sight "restored" to that of the baseline "normal", then they have options that might open up paths that regularly sighted people don't have, in which case their unique trait of being blind becomes an asset.

There's the secret to the utopia Star Trek positsv not that we try to "cute" everyone born different, but that we instead create opportunities for them to thrive as they are. In the future of Star Trek, the word "disability" is probably alien to them. Rather, they would describe someone in our time with such challenges as "disenfranchised" because we don't offer them opportunities.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is under the assumption that every single being being born anywhere is being gene tested and born at a hospital which is statistically impossible.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I see names being mentioned and It’s problematic when someone assumes disabilities by armchair diagnosing characters with a disability and then defend it as if it were true.

“I assume normies would find this character annoying as they have some quirky, slight misunderstandings of personal boundaries so I’m going to attribute them with ‘being on the spectrum’”

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That isn't happening though.

Geordi is blind, Julian was genetically engineered to remove a learning disability and Tilly is stated as having special needs while being aggressively autistically coded.

The only one that doesn't have something directly pointing towards it is Barclay but that man is the textbook definition of Aspergers Syndrome and people have been saying it for decades. It's not like his issues are minor either. They're a significant core component of the character.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

Just FYI, "Asperger's Syndrome" is no longer used as a medical term and some ND people do not care for it being used at all because it divides people on the autism spectrum unnecessarily, especially since there's no real separation in terms of symptoms. Everything falls under "autism spectrum disorder" (ASD) now.

https://www.healthline.com/health/autism/why-is-the-term-aspergers-no-longer-used#the-removal-of-aspergers

(I realize you didn't mean to offend, just letting you know.)

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

Very few characters are ever seen wearing glasses.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'm not a Trekkie, but I see this mentality a lot in fantasy settings. "Why would there be wheel chair users when a simple healing spell would cure it?" 🙄

Edit: in case it's confusing, I meant the idea that disabilities shouldn't exist in fantasy because of magic is annoying.

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