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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[–] wewbull 10 points 4 days ago

The social media scene should be fragmented. The fact that everything became so centralised was a problem, and became weaponised. Too many people see these things as necessary to get a singular "good" message out, but a monoculture is unhealthy regardless of how well intentioned the message is.

What fragmentation means is that now sites need to put more effort in getting an audience. No more posting on Twitter/Facebook and watching the clicks come in. The flip side will be a better diversity of opinion in discussions and a healthier community.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it is a very good thing to have multiple sources of information and discussion in the EV community.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

I think it’s great we consolidated on Lemmy during a time of great fragmentation.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I work with thousands of EV fans on both sides of the political divide there, and I’ve lost hundreds of followers. Using tools to track unfollows, I’ve found that most of the people deleted their accounts. Thousands more simply stopped posting or interacting in any way, leaving without deleting or announcing their departure (X/Twitter isn’t an airport). But enough people have told us where they’re going to know that BlueSky and Threads are the most common destinations.

That is a massive drop in engagement, it will be interesting to see Twitter’s monthly active user count after the dust settles.

What I’m seeing happen now is Democrat-leaning and centrist EV enthusiasts moving off to BlueSky, Threads, and to a smaller extent, the Fediverse (Mastodon, Diaspora, Hubzilla, and various other CMS platforms via plugins). Right-leaning people are either staying on Facebook (which has become a home for elderly illiterates) or X/Twitter.

Mastodon got mentioned wooo!

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Because Tesla is still the juggernaut of the EV industry, it only makes sense that many EV fans are also Tesla fans. Many Tesla fans are big fans of Elon Musk, and have followed him into right-wing politics in recent years. So, the EV space has become a place where right-wing views have become more normalized. But many people got into EVs because they were environmentalists, so many people did not follow Musk down this rabbit hole.

I'd be curious to see some numbers on this. I can't imagine that the political views of the CEO of one automobile manufacturer would cause a significant reversal in people's political leanings.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, I think I disagree with the entire beginning of the paragraph. If we're talking North America, then sure Tesla is the leading brand but that lead is being eroded. If you think globally, they aren't though.

I also think the number of Tesla owners that are Tesla "fans" has dwindled rapidly. Most owners are still happy with their purchase according to consumer reporting. But more than ever before, Tesla owners are considering brands besides Tesla. This was something that Tesla relied on heavily for marketing, but the reality was that owners that wanted EVs had few choices. That's not the case anymore. And the once rabid fandom is significantly smaller because most owners are now normal people buying a car. It's not religion to them.

As far as Tesla fans being Elon fans? I think that's less true than ever as well. And he's certainly not winning his new allies over to EVs. I've got a family full of people that are politically like-minded that have no interest whatsoever to buy an EV, and they'll probably die before they do. His fandom didn't follow him into his ketamine fueled psychosis, he's just got more paid bots amplifying him now because he own's the bot farm and the bot platform.

So, the EV space has become a place where right-wing views have become more normalized.

I disagree with this sentiment the most. There have always been right-wing people in the EV space, for decades at this point. Many of them have owned Teslas and made no bones about their political leanings. But to claim there's more acceptance or more normalization of right wing politics as a whole in the EV consumer spaces without any data whatsoever is beyond suspect in my opinion.