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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 23 points 6 days ago
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago

Can I get that written in a contract?

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

…at the moment

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 24 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I remember when Reddit promised similar things...

[–] zquestz@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The API is so cheap someone is going to do it anyways...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

That's my biggest issue with AI. Now all the APIs want me to pay to use them. Originally the API was an incentive to get engineers to build features for their sites without having to pay them. The engineers get data they need to build their thing and the company providing the API gets free product features and user acquisition. It was mostly a fair trade. Now the companies see a few other companies using that data to train API and make a fortune so their reaction is to charge a fortune for the API. Totally disregarding the previous arrangement. If you are an engineer working on something unrelated to AI you are basically shut down from using any APIs that provide useful data. Everything is locked down now when it once was open. It's so sad. It makes learning more restrictive

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Nah, first you gotta get comfortable for a couple of years.

It's basically pig butchering for social networks.

[–] MrFootball@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What’s the problem of training AI with my posts?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nothing if you do it yourself but someone else doing it without your permission and making tons of money off of it and not sharing it isn't very cool so this is nice.

[–] MrFootball@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, they should ask for permission, I don’t see the point of not sharing it though, they will only make tons of money if the AI is good, don’t they? I think ChatGPT and some other AIs are amazing and if they want my data for helping it, I would allow it.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

"we promise ;)"

[–] macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de 134 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 17 points 1 week ago

I only have it because my family chose that over Mastodon. Mastodon is better.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Well, WE won't train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand..."

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners

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[–] staticsoar@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago

Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.

[–] frobscottle_lemmyworld@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 33 points 1 week ago

BlueskAI on the other hand...

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They also said it was decentralized which is not true.

I don't believe this.

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[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

AI is 100% being trained using Lemmy.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 20 points 1 week ago

Trust me bro, just keep shit posing on here, we won't change out "ToS"

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum

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[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Better BlueSky than Twitter, but I hope everyone understands by now that there’s literally no reason to take a business’s word for anything unless they somehow have legally obligated themselves to doing that thing forever. Otherwise you can only trust them to keep doing it for as long as it’s worth it from an economic perspective. I’m not saying that it can’t ever happen that a business acts out of pure goodwill, but only a fool would count on it.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (14 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

"Don't be evil" ...

... for now

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[–] Free_Opinions 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

there's the catch: it's for people. not robots, not billionaires

[–] Free_Opinions 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Makes no difference to me.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

then you can join twitter and reddit as well

[–] Free_Opinions 1 points 6 days ago

I've been on both for over a decade longer than on Lemmy.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Lol okay. Sounds good, bro.

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