Vegan
An online space for the vegans of Lemmy.
Rules and miscellaneous:
- We take for granted that if you engage in this community, you understand that veganism is about the animals. You either are vegan for the animals, or you are not (this is not to say that discussions about climate/environment/health are not allowed, of course)
- No omni/carnist apologists. This is not a place where to ask to be hand-holded into veganims. Omnis coddling/backpatting is not tolerated, nor are /r/DebateAVegan-like threads
- Use content warnings and NSFW tags for triggering content
- Circlejerking belongs to /c/vegancirclejerk
- All posts should abide by Lemmy's Code of Conduct
Yeah and the argument makes no sense, because if everyone ate meat from "small ethical farms" then those would just be forced to turn into industrial slaughterhouses due to demand.
They ignore the fuck load more land we’d need to support that too.
I think context is very important when talking about our personal choices for being vegan/vegetarian/whateverflavorofnonmeateater. Personally I like to say that the reason I continue to make the choice is because I am fortunate enough to live in a country and have enough resources to be able to not consume animal flesh or byproducts, but I recognize that that may not be a reality for everyone in the world, or even everyone in my country. So to your point, I have sympathy and can excise that one X dude if his survival/life requires it, but zero sympathy for those who choose to consume animals or byproducts simply because it's more convenient or "it tastes good."
100% of the people I interact with online pretend to because they think it’s a valid rebuttal.
NO ONE I know IRL actually gets their meat from those mythical “small, family-owned, ethical farms”.
I live in bycicle distance from two farms like that and a small hunting hut where they sell boar meat. And yet, i still don't know anyone who only eats from those, because it's maily super expensive. One of the farmers basically told me that he's selling expensive meat to buy cheap meat from poland or somewhere. It's bizarre.