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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 117 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Yesterday I read on mastodon that leaving Twitter to go to Bluesky is like quitting smoking to start vaping. Changing a centralized place that lives off your data for another one. Right now Bluesky does not have hate speech like Twitter just because it does not suit the current accounts of its shareholders

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not a great analogy considering Vaping is infinitely healtheri than Smoking, but.. yeah.. they need to go to Mastodon.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago

I'm not going to discuss it with you, because I'm not a doctor nor is it the issue, but the health authorities (at least the European ones) do not agree with your statement.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think we just need to adopt the 2000s mindset again of dropping a platform when it gets shit. No one gave a fuck about the loss of Digg and Myspace.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently they just become fascist

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

When did this become the default?

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I had a really good friend on MySpace that I lost touch with. I think he was a little paranoid, we didn't speak much and he was always looking over his shoulder. His name was Tom.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Switching to vaping is less bad, and for me, it lead to me quitting all together. So to me, this is still a small win, and I like to celebrate small wins these days.

[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would say quitting twitter to join bluesky is more like quitting menthols to smoke regular cigarettes, and switching to a decentralized platform would be more analogous to a switch to vaping. Quitting social media entirely would equate better to 'quitting smoking' in my mind, as i dont think any platform is mentally healthful (yes i am fully aware of the hypocrisy of posting this comment as a lemmy user).

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I would say quitting twitter to join bluesky is more like quitting ~~menthols~~ PCP to smoke regular cigarettes

Fixed that for you.


For those who are unfamiliar,

PCP may cause hallucinations, distorted perceptions of sounds, and violent behavior.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Since Twitter is currently really really toxic, dangerous, and run by a maniac; and Bluesky currently is not (it's actually been amazingly non-toxic)...I strongly disagree.

Even shittier anaology, but it's more like moving from a house that has an active gas leak to a house that has gas pipes in the house. Has potential for leaks, but there aren't any right now. And it currently has working gas leak detectors.

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I don’t know if hate speech will be able to flourish on Bluesky like on twitter simply because of the moderation tools.

There’s already a giant blocklist of maga idiots who have tried to move over, and if you follow that list you’ll never see their posts. And the unwritten rule of the place is to block anyone who is trying to start stuff or that you simply don’t like. On twitter that felt taboo for some reason, but on Bluesky that’s normal - as it should be, really.

This gives me hope. It's like we're all finally learning how to moderate forums in this ridiculous climate.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Where can I get this list?

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here is one. I'm sure there are several.

https://bsky.app/profile/skywatch.blue/lists/3l53cjwlt4o2s

Edit: Just came across a post with several useful block lists for maga, nazis, other shitheads:

https://bsky.app/profile/azalben.bsky.social/post/3lawjdxpick2l

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://atproto.com/guides/self-hosting it’s not so bad; they’re a lot more open than people giving them credit for. it’s just not as federated - yet

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

It has a single owner who makes the decisions and makes profitable the contributions of the users. It is a social media model that has been over for me for some time now, if they are open the better for them, I am not going to join anyway.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Twitter started dying when they closed the API

Bluesky’s is perfectly operational

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[–] variants@possumpat.io 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was just reading up on bluesky yesterday and you can self host and also have a bridge to link with the fediverse so maybe there is some hope to communicate

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The bridges are singular points of failure. If the bridge you use goes down you lose all your audience that was on that bridge. It’s better than nothing however. I will consider normies using threads and Bluesky a win as much as I can but it’d be so more ideal if we just all were on open and truly federated protocols instead of relying on half measures

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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

It's a start. At least ordinary people are leaving Twitter for another site in some capacity.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

We will be here when that goes to shit as well.

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