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It actually still amazes me every time I am like a goldfish. Just so fucking blatant this time like they just have a blinking billboard above their heads saying "we are genocidal freaks and we hate you please give us money please please please". An absolute show of the trauma bond they have with white liberals.
The fact that liberals can still feel they have a moral high ground is incredible to me. Just insane levels of contradiction.
Like legitimately, even Obama was probably more deadly and bloodthirsty than Trump across the globe. Dick Cheney, HRC, and it's not even a contest. I am afraid of Trump, but I'm fucking terrified of the Clintons, the Bushes and the Cheneys. Trump simply doesn't have the connections those ghouls have that has allowed them to destroy entire countries and kill millions of civilians.
This is why I've never given any thought to the harm reduction argument of voting for Dems. They HAVE caused more harm already.
EDIT: This stems from the frustration of talking to people irl, not online, about these contradictions. If you are going to say "we believe in facts" then let's look at the numbers. They plug their ears, they don't want to hear the real horrors or liberalism.
This stems from the frustration of talking to people irl
the people you talk to irl are still spending more hours in a given day getting information about the world filtered through English-language TV news and facebook than anywhere else. it's easy for people to passively repeat what they believe everyone else already thinks, even if "everyone else" is actually just a small minority of the world's wealthiest people paying extraordinary amounts of money to ensure that their opinion is repeated verbatim 24/7 on every screen around you.
Lol I ran to the comments to post this
It wasn't even an election issue, both candidates agreed on it
Greed and racism are the founding tenets of the USA. To reject these tenets is un-American. There are less Americans every day, hopefully...
The part that annoys me is the Dem voters waggling their fingers at the people who didn't vote or the ones that shame marginalised groups for "letting Trump win".
As if the people who are friends with Dick Cheney winning would have made people's lives better.
the all-powerful "nonvoting marginalized groups" bloc capriciously stole the rightful election victory that the powerless ruling party was nevertheless entitled to
people I love have abstracted and dismissed a genocide as an "election issue".
I've just taken to asking them what they'd have done with me during the COINTELPRO purges of the Civil Rights Movement lately. Playing into the "if you ever wondered what you'd have been doing during Jim Crow, the Holocaust, or the Civil Rights Movement, it's this you feckless spineless wannabe-white piece of shit"
My hate for Amerikans is pure and will burn blue when ignited
Material conditions have a huge impact on racism. Imagine if food housing education and health care were available...
I don't believe the bloodlust of amerikkkans toward the middle east would be reduced even if those conditions existed.
USAmericans would still see foreigners as lesser, they would just use their improved conditions as a cudgel
The small business tyrants with a brand new truck every two years a vacation home and a business they have to work at 20 hours a week are some of the most vitulantly racist people in this country.
The poorest people are more likely to vote dem than those shitheads.
Same with trades, guys making more money than 90% of the town who haven't seen a minority in 8 years will tell you a joke where the punch line is just a slur within 10 minutes of meeting you.
Didn't Trump win people making under $50k, and the Democrats do best with upper classes?
As the contradictions inherent in late stage capitalism continue to grow more severe, the poorest Americans will look for any remedy, even if it's one that us Marxists know is self-defeating. Especially when there is no real leftist political movement articulating an alternative to right wing "populism" (which is really just the nationalist bourgeoisie attempting to secure their power against the international, neoliberal, bourgeoisie). And double especially when most Americans don't have a labor union that they can look at as an example of collectivization bringing real benefits to their material conditions.
Yea getting really frustrated with the reddit posts that are like "ok liberals now that Trump got 74 million votes what's your excuse other than his voters are racist because it's not like there's that many racists in this country"
You're right, there's way way more than that.
Every reoublicna and most democrats are racist and the fact that everybody is racist doesn't mean it's fine.
People would try to talk to me about the election, and I would talk about how crazy it is that Kamala is comitting a genocide and campaigning with the Cheneys, Clintons and begging for GWB to endorse her. Seeing how it fried peoples brains when I started to list of statistics about how many countries they destroyed and civilians they killed and immediately default to yeah but Trump is worse. Then follow it up with why are you okay with killing so many Arabs?
But womens reproductive rights, okay how do Democrats plan on getting those? Biden could declare a national emergency and open clinics right now but he wouldn't because he's a conservative catholic.
Yea the abortion issue is a tough seel since if they were being honest it would be "elect us and we'll get back that thing that we lost through our inneffecriveness"
It's very telling that they aren't even campaigning on progress. Climate change and m4a weren't even mentioned during this campaign.
"Elect us and well undue all the setbacks that happened under our leadership in the last 4 years" isn't motivating anybody.
I particularly like the fact that they campaigned on stopping Trump and spectacularly failed twice.