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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm so glad AI is actively making everyone's life worse every day AND destroying the environment to do it

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

But da FOOOOOOOOTUR! Why do you hate the heckin’ innovootions?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This one's doing all the work on the phone itself so it's only ruining everyone's day. Apple really needs to step up their game.

Training and pre-training happen in a server farm somewhere and takes tons of power.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the same thing though, no? Whatever power it takes to run a query in dedicated hardware in a data center is the same or lower than the power to do it on a cell phone. On a cell phone it's even worse because charging the battery, then using battery power to run AI queries is less efficient than just powering a GPU to run several queries in parallel. That's without getting into other efficiencies of scale and the fact that a data center is designed to keep power usage low compared to an iPhone which is designed to be the worst consumer product someone will pay $1000 for.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s the same thing though, no?

Not even close. A phone is lightyears more efficient than a server because it has to run on a battery. A server just needs to not outpace the air conditioning unit positioned right in front of it. Servers do a lot more per watt than say a desktop or maybe even a laptop. But phones do so much with almost no power otherwise you'd get an hour of battery life.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right that phones are more efficient than I gave them credit for, but power costs are absolutely a consideration for the tech companies that are training large models.

Besides, how much more power efficiency does a phone have that it can make up for only doing 1 query at a time compared to a GPU running several at a time, benefiting from cache locality since it's just using the same data over and over for different queries, etc? I highly doubt that the efficiency of scale could be outweighed by mobile hardware's power usage edge.

The key is that Apples model isn't all that large, and that's how they're targeting being able to do it efficiently on a phone. It also sucks so IDK.

[–] Kiagz@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's so great. You can't even buy a new washing machine now without AI being crammed into it. I'm sure the next kettle I buy will also have AI, somehow

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Who the hell even ASKED for this? The fact that tech companies insist on cramming it down everyone’s throat makes me hate it even more.

Don’t suppose there’s a Linux phone?

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t suppose there’s a Linux phone?

Linux phones have considerable problems unfortunately. The biggest being battery life, which is a problem with Linux in general. The other major hurdle is getting certain apps to work, banking apps being the biggest difficulty. If what you're really looking for is a phone that you have much more control over, I would suggest an alternative android-based OS. I was in a similar position as you, looking for a phone I could control and trust, and I ultimately landed with a Pixel phone with GrapheneOS, which I have been immensely happy with and it gave me pretty much everything I was looking for in a Linux phone. GrapheneOS is only developed for the Pixel series of phones though, so if you're looking at different models (or have a non-Pixel already), then you'll need a different OS. There's been some good threads about it on here if you search around.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Probably what I'd do as soon as my current iPhone is no longer usable.

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

PureOs is a linux distribution for phones
Or you could buy a Pinephone, though I have heard they are under powered

[–] RION@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Get a Pixel and slap GrapheneOS on it. Haven't seen any AI stuff on my 8a

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

? We literally don’t need this at all? What the actual fuck

Plus it’s just adding to the already massive amounts of environmental damage that tech does to begin with

[–] goose@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The notification and email summaries are generally useful, but every once in a while it'll call an anniversary party email thread an "Annihilation party" or imply that there are six people at the door because it's grouping six separate notifications.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there are six people at the door

Anxiety Machine.

[–] goose@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shortly after that happened, several Krishna Consciousness people showed up at the door, so maybe it's just manifesting

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I thought the CW was for the POSIX shell at first and I was very confused.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody can argue that we don't live in the future of yesterday

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apple should have improved that AI or abolish altogether.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

improved that AI

niko-dunk another 20 billion tons of CO2 in the atmosphere