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[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Friendly reminder that Lexar isn't Micron anymore and was acquired by Longsys. I've had reliability issues with their products since

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Any idea what should I get for my NAS then? I've been looking at Lexar NM790 as one of the contenders, others being Seagate Firecuda 530 and WD RED SN700. My target is 2TB not too expensive nvme drive.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Newmaxx has a spreadsheet with details and recommendations - https://borecraft.com/

I've also been thinking of getting the NM790. Just take into account it has no DRAM.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Personally I've used Western Digital, Seagate, and PNY drives with no failures. Stay away from anything HP branded; they don't actually produce drives but rather rebadge other failure-prone models and make it damn near impossible to claim any warranty.

I've had a Samsung Evo drive fail on me, but warranty was pretty easy. I've also had a PNY 2.5" ssd that has never failed on me, but I did break the connector off accidentally. Warranty was actually ridiculously easy on that, despite it being entirely user error.

If data is mission critical, it's worth shelling out extra; stay away from any cheap brands (HP, SanDisk, etc) and opt for the higher end models in reputable brands (Eg WD Red, Purple, and Gold vs Green and Blue, or Seagate Ironwolf or Firecuda)

These are my own personal experiences. Others will have better/worse experiences and I encourage you to seek out others' experiences and options, as well as others to add their own

[–] Koyaanisqatsi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I am using two 790 2TB drives for two or so years and I haven't had any issues with them. Personally I'd recommend them to anyone.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

8tb on one chip? As Bill Gates once said "Damn, that's a shit load of ram."

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's a lot of money. Also, imagine this thing taking a shit after a couple of years and you lose all of the data you have on it.
Edit: made it a bit clearer.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would probably be more upset about my 6tb of data at that point

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In the name of stupid internet arguments it wasn't though. You were referring to a financial loss.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I see what you mean. I did mean both, and I should have made it clearer. Sorry. Fixed it

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that's very non internet of you. Thankfully I found someone else to bicker with about it.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

😂 fucking fuck you you fucking piece of shit asshole you human garbage waste of oxygen you are. Is that what you mean by internet of me?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not even one mention of my mother?

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Nah, I don't mess with family no matter what. Family is sacred in my books. I wouldn't want anyone to insult my dead mother.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the name of even dumber stupid internet arguments, it was. Data loss along with the price paid was an obvious inference.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see it. Original statement applies perfectly well to an expensive blender for example.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet the entire context is discussing an expensive SSD that would go bad, inherently implying data loss as part of the inferred outcomes. Not a blender or a crock pot or the LCD display of a 1997 Honda Civic radio.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

It's the wrong explicit emphasis though. Faced with a bad 8tb drive my primary concern would likely be the data loss. It's pretty well known these drives have a five year warranty as well, so if it were bricked even, you'd likely be able to get the money back / drive replaced.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

having dealt with their NM610PRO, I'm not gonna buy another Lexar product ever again.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the moment it becomes more than 50% full, the speeds drop drastically. copying files drops from 300 MB/s to like 30 or fewer, games that load almost instantly on an emptier drive (like Hades) suddenly start taking 20 or 30 seconds, the entire OS randomly locks up when launching some applications. I'll be finally replacing it in a few weeks and I cannot wait to downgrade this piece of crap to a portable drive.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

It's a QLC drive, so you get slow write speeds and poor write endurance. They should be avoided for as long as TLC drives are available.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Just a rule of thumb for the future, don't use a DRAMless QLC SSD as an OS drive.
Or even just a QLC SSD.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the cost of high end bleeding edge tech.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 4 points 1 month ago

It’s the cost of greed.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't bleeding edge at all. Just put a 15tb drive in a machine the other day and they are a couple years old at this point.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was that a 2280 M.2 drive?

That's what makes this bleeding edge since those drives are so tiny. 15tb in a 2.5" drive is nothing special.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair enough it was a 2.5 nvme but 8tb m2 2280 disks have been on the market for literal years. You could get them in PCIe gen 3 ...

The reason it costs so much is because the chip industry is limiting supply again again to drive prices up after a few years of over producing. Not because there is something fancy in this drive.

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Would be surprised is these won't become the cheapest option at 8TB. $1000 sounds like a placeholder price.

[–] Blackmist 4 points 1 month ago

Seems a lot considering you can get 2TB drives for just over £100.

[–] jamyang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Great. Now, it'd be great if they come up with a technology that prolongs their life beyond 6 months.

[–] Zerthax@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

I have a "not Lexar" 8TB NVMe that I've had for almost 3 years with no trouble. Should I be worried? Or is Lexar just bad?

Incidentally, looks like the price has barely come down on these since I bought.

[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

anyone who has this kinda money would probably just store data on cloud storage provider. unless they are the provider.