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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Apparently it's the button you press to get banned from a community.

ASK ME HOW I KNOW

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So stuupid 😆

[–] Didros@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fine, I'll do it, how ya know?

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[–] Emperor 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A lot of those are joke downvotes, well mine was.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 89 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I downvote anyone complaining about downvote out of principle.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I'm the same! If the comment contains the word downvote in it, it's a DV. I even downvote my own haha! It's a silly little reminder to myself how little they matter

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'll also down vote anyone using up votes as some kind of metric for their post/comment being inherently right/good

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mine wasn't.

Communities trying to have alternate meanings for upvotes/downvotes must keep in mind that people scrolling posts across communities won't generally notice the community and if they do they won't read the rules and will vote however they want. Trying to force them to follow some silly community specific process is tilting at windmills and bitching about it is embarrassing.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fr like if you don't like the way people are using the downvote feature why make a post whinging about it and not just make your account on an instance that has it disabled???

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

aren't they the instance admin themselves?

[–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Indeed, and this is a pinned post on Ye Power Trippin' Bastards. Posters ask if their bans were justified. Downvotes bury the post, preventing an audience from making their opinion about it.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Even funnier tbh

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sadly one can't disable downvotes per community

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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, just add a 'disagree' button so there's no confusion.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's just the Uber disagree button now.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago

It's a bit of an unwinnable battle. People will always use it as disagree button

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'll stop using the downvotes as a disagree button when everyone else stops using upvotes as an agree button.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually think up- and downvotes are inherently asymmetrical in this respect.

Upvoting things you agree with is fine and a main use of the function. Why then is downvoting things you disagree with wrong? Because the purpose of voting is visibility, you upvote things you want people to see, like arguments you agree with, and downvote those you don't think people should see.

Now if you believe in having an open discussion you don't want to suppress posts just because you disagree with them. Disagreeing is fine, so downvoting is reserved for posts that detract from the conversation.

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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Downvotes are definitely a disagree button and anyone denying it is just coping or lying about their own usage of it. Reddiquette was the worst thing that ever happened to internet culture

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Earnest question- what is it supposed to be used for? I don't downvote people very often, but I think I've only ever seen it used express approval or disapproval so that the score reflects community sentiment

How is it supposed to be used?

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In addition to what others said, in comments the down vote is meant to be used on comments that don't further discussion in good faith.

I used to subscribe to that idea, but I've since changed my mind. If the far majority use upvotes to mean agreement, then me upvoting a controversial, but well structured, opinion will likely be viewed as agreement as well.

It's a nice idea to think the voting system is meant to promote discussion, instead of homogenise opinions in a community.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's kind of the nature of communication I think, and ultimately votes are a form of communication :/

If people understand them to mean agreement or disagreement, that's the message they'll recieve regardless of whether it was the message that you were trying to send.

I guess if I wanna convey I appreciate someone's contribution even though I don't share their perspective I can always leave a comment; that seems like something I'd appreciate seeing in my inbox so maybe it's worthwhile for me to make that a habit

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's something I do sometimes as well. I usually just don't vote on a comment as a third option for when I disagree with them, but don't want to punish having a different viewpoint ^^

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

when a post doesn't fit the community purpose or is generally inappropriate

[–] olsplasher@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that where you use the report functionality?

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ok but even if its for something else everyone else is still using it for that. And on another note, why shouldnt i use it to show disapproval?

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes they are. No matter the intent that is what they are.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

Spot on. Upvotes/downvotes are for voting on the quality of comment only in theory. In practice, they are agree/disagree buttons.

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[–] tejan@hubzilla.monster 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I always thought a downvote was just a silent "Booooooooooo!"

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's what it should be, a "booo!" for lazy and willfully ignorant comments.

In practice most people downvote any take they disagree with, no matter if it was expressed well, written respectfully, and contributes to the conversation.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

As a rule of thumb I downvote any post that mentions being downvoted or complains about the reaction to a post or comment.

I will give this whole thread a pass, though 🙂

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I couldn't even post an album there because the instance apparently sees external imgur albums as image spam or something stupid.

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[–] scott@authorship.studio 8 points 2 weeks ago

It would be interesting to see how people would behave if you had both a "Disagree" and a "Low Quality" button. Would it make any difference, or would people who dislike it also hit the low quality button out of spite?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think this kind of voting system intentionally places the content people want to see (i.e. agree with), at the top which increases active users.

But it doesn't stimulate healthy debate and definitely doesn't encourage going against the mainstream.

Slashdot had a more interesting system that let only a select number of people rank quality and set a post category (like funny, informative, etc).

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's a nice sentiment, but you can't change emergent behavior just by saying "this is wrong"

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is wrong.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We disabled downvotes on hexbear and it honestly made for much healthier discussion

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's actually surprising to me, because I'd think that down voting whack stuff would make things better overall. What was happening? It's not like people know who it was, or were down votes done out of spite?

I also couldn't help but notice some super conservative instances I've seen have down votes disabled.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My perspective is that without them bad takes get called out, and if the poster is redeemable they can engage with constructive criticism and learn something from the replies

Rather than people downvoting and moving on which can lead to resentment on a posters behalf if they don't understand why a position of theirs may be getting downvoted

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Downvotes were disabled because posts that touched on trans issues were routinely downvoted, often by the same users. Those users were purged and downvotes disabled to good effect.

Uninformed posters are given information if they are sincere.

Malicious posters get dunked on before getting banned.

It has worked very well in my opinion.

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