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I mean Seinfeld was fucking huge. It's hard to overstate how big a hit it was in its time. And he was co-creator, the lead role, and obv his name is the name of the show. How could you not see people putting him up as one of the greats?

I'm not personally the biggest fan of his particular style of comedy, and you can certainly find issue with his personality and behavior over the years, but the man knows how joke structure works. He's an expert in his craft. And you may not think he's as good as some of his contemporaries, but there's no denying he's more of a household name than most if not all of them.

I think he was trying to get a buzz for his stand-up by going anti-woke. Then those people didn't show up for him because they are still laughing at Rob Schneider.

After Jerry realized his mistake, he figured he would say he grew and learned to help any damage control. I don't think people really care enough about him for this, but he is rich enough to have people tell him.

Wait, you wonder why we're still listening to Jerry Seinfeld about comedy?

Like, I don't agree with the guy and I don't think everything he does is funny, but... I mean, I'm a contrarian nerd on the Internet and even I would think about that one twice.

For what it's worth, you can change your mind on things as often as you want. Hell, I'll take older rich guys walking back their slow drift rightwards as many times as is necessary.

To be fair, it's a complicated topic. Some people see humour as a form of therapy or control over dark topics while others see it as a channel to project them. And both are true. Unfortunately many people lack the spark to discern the two and subsequently fall back on the behaviour they are familiar with; picking a side and setting up camp in it.

“Does culture change and are their things that I use to say that [I can’t because] people are always moving [the gate]? Yes, but that’s the biggest and easiest target,” Seinfeld added. “You can’t say certain words about groups. So what? The accuracy of your observation has to be 100 times finer than that just to be a comedian…So I don’t think, as I said, the ‘extreme left’ has done anything to inhibit the art of comedy.”

I don't know, seems pretty cogent to me and it seems pretty far from doubling down.

Why are you guys making me defend Jerry Seinfeld? Seriously, sometimes leftie spaces just can't take a win.

The preacher

Your not a highschool girl, I think your fine.

I absolutely loved Seinfeld (the show) and recently saw his stand up in person and it was absolutely terrible, it was actually pretty shocking. He's just so incredibly unrelatable now.

Seinfeld turn to shit the moment Larry David left. Curb made it clear that he carried that show.

He was never funny. Larry David, the guy who wrote the show, was the funny one.

I wouldn't say that's contrarianism. I've heard criticism for Jerry Seinfeld's comedy since at least 2004, calling out observation comics as a whole was trending at the time of his show even. Larry David made that show great, and some of the cast played their roles really well, Jerry Seinfeld wasn't one of them for me and seemingly a lot of people.

I don't think the contrarianism is Lemmy specific. Whenever someone becomes problematic for whatever, there'll always be people taking to twitter or whatever to say "well they were never really that good anyway". And it is almost always just a cope, except in the specific case of Rob Schneider.