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I just set up all the subreddits I still want to following in Reeder, an RSS app. I'm able scroll through the posts ad free. It the occurred to me that this is a loss of revenue to Reddit. Could RSS be the new target for onerous fees?

It could be the case that RSS usage is small compared to 3rd party apps like Apollo so not of much concern. It also may be the case that it isn't possible for Reddit to charge for the usage. If they can't charge, they may just disable RSS altogether. I'm only guessing. I'll take off my tinfoil hat now.

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[–] LynneOfFlowers@midwest.social 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shhh no one tell spez there's still RSS feeds

[–] NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Reddit tried to remove https://i.reddit.com, but they forgot that you could also access it by going to https://reddit.com/.i

Wouldn't be surprised if they would remove RSS feeds but forgot they exist

[–] bhaak@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WTF? I never knew this existed.

How can this still be there? They didn't rip out the code that generated this pages but only the redirects? I'm always surprised how shitty Reddit's development is.

Either that or somebody was deliberately specificly resolving the issue "remove the .compact and i.reddit.com view". :)

[–] Shinhoshi@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, probably malicious compliance :)

[–] tappyturtle@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you!!!!! Now I can browse Reddit on my 3DS again

(that is, if I still actively used Reddit)

[–] locness3@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Ohh didn't know about the .i, tysm! I knew of i.reddit.com and reddit.com/.compact and both have been killed.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never saw i.reddit.com, i thought they used that for image hosting. It needs a little touch-up but besides that it's very usable. Crazy.

[–] NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Image hosting is i.redd.it

[–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mananevergone@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

The only thing I've been missing is the ability to ask a specific community a specific question.

For example I just got done homebrewing my Wii, and whereas before there was a whole community of people who would have been able to help, now I'm sure a lot of those people have left including myself. The only useful things on Reddit now are old unarchived posts with dead links.

That being said, I like a lot better that way.

[–] quortez@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL reddit has RSS feeds. Welp, I'll see if I can use it to plug in my favorites until they cut it for 'profit-seeking measures' and 'loosing 200 billion dollars a year'

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

it's spez. He'll say they're losing 200 trillion a year.

[–] vortex@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its only a matter of weeks now, days after the 1st of July. RSS feeds count as free access to the Reddit API and therefore unauthorized third party apps, so the're definitely be gone.

After the userbase has been conditioned to the fact that there isn't a 3rd party Reddit reader anymore, they will kill off old.reddit.com.

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[–] bilb@lem.monster 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine a practical reason to do so. This, however, has not been a good heuristic for determining what a CEO having a temper tantrum will do, so who the hell knows.

[–] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

There's an absolutely practical reason for doing it that's consistent with everything they've done so far - they want to control how we get to and see Reddit. So that they can advertise in the feed etc.

RSS means you can skip the normal feed (where they would advertise) and go straight to the post.

It's not a good idea - they seem to have forgotten that user hostile decisions reduce the number of users - but it does make sense in their twisted world. I'm amazed they still work.

[–] iter_facio@lemmy.one 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think eventually they will. They wish to put up their walled garden.

As for Their current RSS feed, it only grabs the post, right? Not the comments as well. That limits its usefulness a bit, depending on what you use reddit for.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah one major reason RSS has died is because content makers moved away from it as it bypassed their own sites advert serving, particularly if anything more than titles are shared. Reddit will go the same way. Also many content sites have moved to tricks to track and monetise users landing on their pages with share to facebook, facebook like, share to twitter etc buttons (which also passively track people just by a user loading a page with them on). Those all help feed the big tracking systems that social media companies like Facebook use to monetise users data by spying on them, profiling them and selling or using information for marketing; so RSS feeds also deminish that income source.

Google has done it's part in this - it killed Google Reader which was a popular RSS reader. It wasn't a huge product but looking back it makes sense to kill it when it also wants to track people across the internet and also concerns it may have to pay content providers for their content.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to have it set up so it gave me a personal RSS feed of replies to me. I don't remember the details because it was a really long time ago, but it was kind of cool and I pitched it to a couple other places that needed notifications but didn't have mobile apps (none bought in though).

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Reddit RSS wiki entry explains basic use of the RSS features and also links to a masterclass on advance use of the feature from 11 years ago . From the comments these features still currently work as of 5 months ago, and you can pull comment feeds but I'm not sure how useful it would be given how RSS works.

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[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It should always be possible to scrape and make a feed. I use this at the moment: https://github.com/trashhalo/reddit-rss

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[–] awwsom@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

well don't give then ideas

[–] Xero@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep I just finished setting up Feeder for the websites I read most and a few subreddits.

[–] ddugue@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a good way to find rss feeds? I'm looking to emulate my own hacker news in terms of non-tech interesting articles, and sometimes I feel lost trying to find feeds to subscribe to

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[–] simonced@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think reddit has merit on blocking RSS, because you can't act on the posts, no comment, no upvote etc... You'll have to visit the site directly to do so. But I might be wrong, I just don't think it's their priority.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Their major reason for this was that data can be scraped for free, so imagine RSS is a big data scraping interface, it will be gone or will get cut in terms of letters.

[–] aranym@lemmy.name 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At the current usage, I really doubt it. If a significant amount of people start using RSS readers as an alternative to the third party clients they were using previously, it's a possibility.

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[–] Maffrow@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

I hope not but who really knows at this point? I imagine the amount of people following subreddits via rss is really small in the grand scheme of things so hopefully they don’t see a reason to kill them.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

About 90% of my visits to reddit are via RSS (to read comments). If they remove it, I'll never visit except for reading my local town feed.

[–] jeffjefferson@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

For anyone interested this is how. https://www.reddit.com/wiki/rss/

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you add a subreddit as an rss feed?

[–] Dankenstein@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://reddit.0qz.fun/r/news.json

There are a lot of options but this site will turn the JSON into XML for RSS. If you want it in JSON format you can just use Reddit

https://reddit.com/r/news.json

Edit: Reddit also does RSS but it is kinda gross

https://reddit.com/r/news/.rss

[–] l0st_scr1b3@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any links to things you can do with that JSON file? I don't really know Java but it'd be cool to mess around with it in Python some. Searching "reddit python JSON" is obviously not very helpful.

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[–] Marduk@hammerdown.0fucks.nl 12 points 1 year ago

put .rss on the end of the subreddit url and add to a reader. I made a multireddit containing all of my subs, and access it like this (the multireddit has to be marked public: https://www.reddit.com/user/username/m/multiredditname/.rss

[–] giltwist@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, the sites that get aggregated on Reddit themselves often have RSS feeds. That's what I've slowly been assembling. I can't get quite such the steady drip of information as I would directly from reddit, but I definitely don't feel like I'd be completely out of the loop if reddit vanished now.

[–] vermillion@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit has a feature where you can make an RSS feed of the subreddits that you follow. It's an RSS feed specific to my Reddit account. Currently, this is how I use Reddit and once they take it away, I'm done with Reddit.

It's nice to be able to scroll through the RSS feed which only contains the top posts of each subreddit. It also shows all the posts that get removed by mods...

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[–] JoGooD@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably, but you will likely be able to use RSS Bridge to get an RSS feed anyway. Not very convenient though

[–] _I_@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fun fact: Feedly supports Reddit, and will list hot threads like any news article. Sure, you have to click the link to go to the thread, but you'll be able to choose which thread you want to engage with without a single ad.

[–] danc4498@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love Feedly. Been using it daily since the loss of Google reader

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[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I suspect they will at some point. I used their RSS feeds for years but, whatever they choose to do now, it won't effect me anymore.

[–] noodle 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it really a loss in revenue if you used a 3rd party app previously?

If you want to bypass Reddit, why not just set up RSS for the things you get from Reddit instead? Most news sites have RSS. You could almost certainly find a feed for most of the stuff posted to Reddit.

[–] Salastil@pleroma.salastil.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most sites do not have RSS feeds now. I have to employ a lot of tricks to get RSS feeds for some sites I want.

[–] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thing with me is I don't want the raw stream of dozens of articles each day. I've used RSS feeds with Reddit for years now using the Top Week feed for each important subreddit. I haven't been able to find a way to get that sort of curated information stream anywhere else. Essentially I get around the top 12 articles/pictures/text-posts each day that real people think are actually important for each of my interests. Open to suggestions, though.

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[–] kaffeebohne@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i would if was them.

[–] minnix@lemux.minnix.dev 5 points 1 year ago
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