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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In spanish "pene" is masculine. However "una pene" (fem) is a much more interesting concept. Even more if we throw in some diminutives. "una penesita"

I actually jokingly call dicks "pussos" with my girlfriend in spanish.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Una pene makes no sense. Also it would technically be penecillo, with a c. However, we do use polla which is akin to dick/cock and is feminine. We also say coño which means vagina and that is masculine

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cimbrel, carajo, picha, polla, tranca, rabo... Tiene nombres mil el miembro viril! (Yeah idk why we have so many words for penis)

[–] addie 10 points 1 month ago

It's a language essential! Dick, willy, cock, penis, shaft, manhood, todger, pole, ...

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

in portuguese we have something similar. "pênis", "pinto" and "pau" are masculine, but "piroca" is feminine.

why so many words for the same thing? good question! i have no idea!

btw if you want to know what each one means:
pênis: penis
pinto: closest translation in this meaning would be "cock" but the other, more common, meaning is "chick" as in a baby chicken
pau: literally means stick and can be used to refer to a penis. (thankfully there's also "graveto" which means stick but people don't think about a penis when they hear it)
piroca: i don't know if there is any meaning for this word other than dick or penis, and im pretty sure it's some variation of "pinto", made to sound goofier (and it seems it's feminine just because it ends with an A)

[–] azi@mander.xyz 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Une pene
Une moustache
Un vagine

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[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So as far as I can tell the rule for deciding if a french word is feminine is "does it end with an e".

There are exceptions and French people claim that's not how it works, but it is an incredibly useful heuristic

[–] addie 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I feel that 'gender' is probably a misleading term for the languages that have 'grammatical gender', it rarely has anything to do with genitalia. 'Noun class', where adjectives have to decline to agree with the class would fit better in most cases.

English essentially does not have decline adjectives, except for historical outliers like blond/e where no-one much cares if you don't bother, and uses his / hers / its / erc using a very predictable rule. So no 'grammatical gender'.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

in humans the gender can be any, even when the person has specific genitalia. so saying gender is a misleading term because it rarely has to do with genitalia doesn't make much sense to me.

so basically i dont see why not just call it gender when the pronouns given to each word in such languages is gendered

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

The problem is that the noun class that is used to refer to you is based on your gender. As long as that is the case, grammatical gender will probably be the most apt name for the concept.

[–] Persi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

English has the peculiarity of having two variants of the same word: "gender" and "genre" with slightly different meanings.

You could lean on it and go with genre. But just changing the word is unlikely to help much, the concept itself is deeply associated with genitalia in English culture, you'd still need to explain it.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The word "gender" was a linguistic thing long before it was ever used to describe people. The latter use case didn't really exist before the 1940s.

If anything, it's the 'people definition' that ought to have to change term names, it's the newcomer, lol.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

‘Noun class’, where adjectives have to decline to agree with the class would fit better in most cases.

great,now explain why the water in spanish fits into a noun class with incorrect "the" and why hands do the same thing, but for the opposite class.

bonus : why are fire and door in different noun classes?

the source of this arrogance : first language had no noun classes , nor indefinite articles.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

umm that's not french btw

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's almost a 50% successrate!

The joke here is bad things are feminine (no science to back that up lol).

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ella has a penis. A feminine penis.

[–] Wutchilli@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago

How did you turn in the Duolingo nsfw Mode?

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Naw, I feel it should be neutral...