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  • Former Mesa County, Colorado, clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years in prison for crimes related to a breach of her county's voting system.
  • Peters espoused the false conspiracy theory that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden due to ballot fraud.
  • She was accused of allowing access to the voting system to an expert affiliated with My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell, a leading proponent of the Trump election conspiracy theory.

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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 115 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It was actually pretty interesting to listen to the sentencing. It's about 20 minutes. The judge goes through all of the options at his disposal and discusses his the rationale that he used to arrive at a prison sentence.

He had the option of sentencing her to parole, community service, or incarceration. He then described her as unrepentant, the most defiant defendant the court has ever seen, and a continuing danger to society. He also discussed that he considers how a sentence will act as deterrent for the defendant directly (not at all in this case) and for others who might seek to commit similar crimes as well as punishment. He determined that Mrs Peters would immediately go commit the same crimes again given the opportunity, that community deterrence is important, and that punishment was warranted.

He also went through her mitigating circumstances. He compared her circumstances to the typical defendant that his court sees and characterized her as extremely privileged with few mitigating circumstances and many aggravating ones. He said that she simply sought power, prestige, and wealth without a care for who she harmed. He characterized her as an unrepentant liar and a fraud who lied every chance she got including about why she kicked a police officer while on video.

Based on his rationale, he decided that removing Tina Peter's from the community was in the best interests of the community.

TL/DR The judge didn't like Mrs Peters very much.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And this is why you STFU as soon as you're indicted, then act contrite after you're convicted, until after your sentencing. What a dumbass, in addition to being a horrible person. I hope she enjoys the FO part of FAFO

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 month ago

She followed the fascists’ lead of doubling down, never admitting to a lie. Not punishing it is how they stay in power, I’m glad the judge in this case recognized that.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. May she be but the first of these traitors who get thrown in prison.

The country needs a reality check and that likely involves sending a lot of people to prison.

Hopefully trump will be one of them.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 96 points 1 month ago (1 children)

RIP: Rot in Prison. Traitor.

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Going to prison for 7 years, at 69 years of age. For a crook that probably doesn’t even know her name. smh. The charge should be treason, that’s what she did.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 68 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Imagine going to jail for Trump of all people.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its worse because she arguably went to jail for Mike Pillow.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

dude needs to go back to doing drugs. This republican christianity stuff is ruining his life.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (6 children)

All these sentences for people who literally tried to subvert our Democracy are light as hell. Slap them for 15 years at a minimum.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least they're going to prison. How the fuck is Trump still a free man.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Presumably because he has more power in the form of money and influence.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I totally agree, for her that's likely a life sentence. I wonder if there isn't some form of psychiatric help some of these people could benefit from. They're all deeply brainwashed. Subjecting them to the people who have been portrayed so long as the enemy might change some minds. Though, I don't know that I'd want to subject minorities to them.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sometimes, people really do have bad intentions. This is one of those times. They don't need psychiatric help. They need swift justice.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no doubt she had bad intentions. The government is full of people with bad intentions. Taken at face value, somewhere between 40% and 60% of the US has bad intentions. Does that mean we're almost half evil or that a lot of us are programmed horribly?

My father, born and raised in Appalachia, was born into racism. Met a black guy, he was nice to my dad. Over the years my dad liked him and considered him a friend. Years later he recounts that this guy was one of the good N's. JFC dad, where do I start? It's not that an entire race of people is bad; you've been lied to your whole life and watch news that perpetuates that lie. It's the same overall story with an Indian guy from work who shared some of his family's curry with him. "He's one of the good ones..." He votes with the republicans because of "all these horrible minorities waving flags on top buildings". He's only ever met a couple and says they're good. He's not evil, he's just been lied to his whole life and has never been exposed to enough minorities to get de-programmed. Would he throw a box of democratic votes in the river if no one was looking? His friends, neighbors, and politicians are telling him he's going to get overrun and shot by minorities if the left keeps winning. He might. Thankfully, he'll never be in that position, but their programming is intensely strong.

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

She was accused of allowing access to the voting system to an expert affiliated with My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell

I can pretty much guarantee there are no experts associated with Mike Lindell.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey now his old drug dealer is probably an expert in something.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 48 points 1 month ago

So many prison sentences in his wake- none of them are his.

The hallmark of a truly innocent man.

[–] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago
[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 36 points 1 month ago

Haha Tina enjoy your time in prison you asshole.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The judge really have her hell, it's worth reading. Another article by The Guardian had this gem:

"She also told the judge she cannot go to prison because she needs to sleep on a magnetic mattress, which she has been using since 1995 to help with health conditions such as chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia."

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Everything Trump cultists accuse people of is just a confession at this point. There is no point in even entertaining these people. I hope she enjoys her stay in prison.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On the one hand, I'm glad she's going to jail. On the other, I'm annoyed ASF that her main conspirator, the mango Mussolini is still not only walking free, but running for fucking president again.

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck this traitorous cunt. 

[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Better to deny her sex.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'll just say it. Watching her sentencing video is very enjoyable.

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[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The funny part is, that she believes deep down, if trump wins the election, he will pardon her 😂😂

[–] Happywop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

He can't, they're state charges not federal...she fuuuked and deservedly so. Of course unless Trump does win and he threatens the state AG I wouldn't put it past him ffs. VOTE BLUE!

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Can't this be used to charge Lindell with conspiracy?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Watched the sentencing. Judge was angry forsure

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She should be glad that the cops didn't decide to give her the Floyd treatment since she was at least resisting arrest, possibly assaulting the officer. They didn't even make her get down on the ground or tase her.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Nah, they probably go to the same cross burnings. No way they'd do that to one of their own.

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[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Rather light for treason, but it looks good on her.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 13 points 1 month ago

May she die of an embarrassing and uncomfortable medical condition exactly 5 minutes before being released.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Biggest of lmaos from me, dumbass Paula Deen lookin hag.

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