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It’s amazing to me that libs have deified this woman, like she has proven to be the very model of smart leadership. That she was the most qualified, deserving person to ever run for president. A quick recap of how she got where she did.

She is famous for being married to Bill Clinton. That’s it, that’s her origin story. Married to a president. Just hitched her wagon to the right person. She tried to make a name for herself by making healthcare her issue, but she got criticized pretty hard in the media because spouses of the president are supposed to make some uncontroversial issue their cause (probably some degree of sexism there but then again I’m sure most people don’t want to hear from Kamala’s dopey ass husband).

From there she was able to leverage her fame to be anointed to one of NY’s senate seats. It wasn’t a challenging contest, the Clinton connections in the party is what got her the spot.

But senators don’t have to actually lead or do things, they just vote. So that’s all she did until she ran for president in 2008 and ate shit. She got to be SoS because Obama probably didn’t feel he had any choice. This was Clinton’s first job with real responsibility, and she fucked it royally (Libya was the big one but there were others I’m sure). Then she lost another election because who could know that swing states are important to win, and had been wandering around that woods in her neighborhood ever since. Except when she surfaces in order to go on TV and suggest that anyone who spreds “Russian disinformation” should be locked up.

This is not a person who has proven to be competent at anytjing. I firmly believe that no American president or presidential candidate from the last few decades who make it past like, local village leadership in the CPC. That’s a system where you actually do have to prove your capability and get things done.

I hope a thousand years from now, when people talk about the fall of the American empire like we talk about Rome, when they get to the chapter on incompetent leadership I do hope that Hillary Clinton gets a mention.

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

This was Clinton’s first job with real responsibility, and she fucked it royally (Libya was the big one but there were others I’m sure).

This is what the libs are referring to when they talk about her qualifications. Clinton didn't fumble Libya. That was a deliberate overthrow of a democratically elected government standing in the way of capitalist imperialism. To the average person, Libya makes you go "What the fuck." For neoliberal ghouls? This was a """"necessary evil"""" in order to "get things done."

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's a really bizarre person in general. Off-putting. Insincere. The right wing is notorious for their projection but it's a trait all liberals possess and that includes the "left" wing "Democratic Party" liberals as well. They projected onto Hillary and acted like deep down she had some sort of mundane normalcy within her, like imagining she wakes up and makes a slice of toast for breakfast just like they do. But that isn't who she is and regular people could see that. They could see the mask. It's an instinctual feeling. Like picking up an empty box that's labeled "full" and still being compelled to give it a shake. Like dropping a stone down a well and never hearing a splash. Something just felt "off." She pushed her authentic self so far down it fell out the bottom. Like an identity thief who forgot her real name. A highly curated life stacked together so she could become a thing that she never got to be.

She really devalues the concept of "leadership." Real leaders take responsibility for the failures that happen under their tenure, instead of blaming entire countries.

To this day, I partially blame the Democrat's rabid desire to prolong the Russo Ukrainian War on their steadfast belief in the baseless conspiracies she endorsed to cover her own ass.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Literally the only person on the planet capable of losing an election to Trump

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that might be a bit of a saving throw to Kamala Harris. If she wins, both Trump and Hildawg will be pissed.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

If Harris wins, I'd love to see a video of Hillary clenching her jaw as the race is called.

hillary-contempt

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Everytime they treat her like a savant I keep wondering..... Why?

[–] BennyCHill@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure to get into the terrible leadership chapter she would have to actually make it into a leadership role

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Even her minor leadership roles have been a joke. Her 2016 presidential campaign was a trainwreck. She was incapable of managing the competitive nature of all her sycophants. So much so that when she told one she wasn't feeling well they didn't share it with the rest of her campaign. Which is how we got her collapsing at the 911 memorial and the subsequent conspiracy brained 24 hours following in which nobody had any idea what was happening. She is her own worst enemy. The only thing she's really good at is grifting.

https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/nor-a-lender-be/

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I recall seeing a video of her as a young university student, making a fairly progressive speech with what seemed like some actual passion - so perhaps she started out as a far better person than who she became.

...but it does mean she's just American Liz Truss.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

She was a Goldwater Girl in University, whatever values she espoused in her speech were nothing more than lip service

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Yes but have you considered: it's HER TURN? smuglord

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Prior to Bill becoming president, she was a lawyer who sued people on behalf of corporations, specializing in IP law.

Also her healthcare plan was peak neoliberal means-tested dogshit. Single-payer is just too complicated!

According to an address to Congress by then-President Bill Clinton on September 22, 1993, the proposed bill would provide a "health care security card" to every citizen that would irrevocably entitle them to medical treatment and preventative services, including for pre-existing conditions.[2] To achieve this, the Clinton health plan required each US citizen and permanent resident alien to become enrolled in a qualified health plan on his or her own or through programs mandated to be offered by businesses with more than 5,000 full-time employees. Subsidies were to be provided to those too poor to afford coverage, including complete subsidies for those below a set income level. Users would choose plans offered by regional health alliances to be established by each state. These alliances would purchase insurance coverage for the state's residents and could set fees for doctors who charge per procedure.