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YouTube has found a new way to load ads | AdGuard Blog (adguard.com)
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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

So AdGuard works on the YouTube website. I haven't been there for some time - I use 2 other methods to watch YouTube ad-free.

  1. Newpipe - Android app that works by parsing the website, will probably be affected?
  2. YouTube Kodi add-on - works with Google YouTube API, I was wondering when this loophole is going to be plugged..

Anyone with knowledge of the matter care to comment? So far my YouTube watching is still ad-free.

I also run pi-hole in front of my WiFi. Nothing gets through. Or will it?

I noticed some podcasts these days have random server injected ads - usually the same ad repeated 2 or 3 times, is this going to be my video stream soon?

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I just want the Temu ads to stop

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 24 points 6 hours ago

So, instead of iterating the ancient concept of frontal assault ads towards something less intrusive and more engaging, they go the black mirror path of force feeding ads?

Sounds about right regarding the decision makers have as much creativity as a Vogon.

Man I really hate those suit MBA circlejerk idiots in positions of power.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 244 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

So if YouTube is now serving up the ads directly to me, does that mean they're finally liable for the content of those ads? Can we have them investigated for all the malware, phishing, illegal hate speech, etc.?

[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

Great, now it's Russian roulette every time you hit that pause button. ¡BOOM ZERODAY MALWARE!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 44 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, because that would be communism, and that killed 100 million people. You also think genocide is bad, aren't you? And besides of that, if there were less regulations, you could make your own video platform to challenge Google's monopoly!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

i think people may have missed that you're not serious

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 0 points 34 minutes ago

It’s not possible for everyone to just tell if it’s supposed to be sarcasm. ADHD makes it hard. A bad day makes it hard. A tiring day makes it hard.

The downside of the misunderstanding isn’t just downvotes. It’s possibly a proliferation of misinformation and an impression that there are people who DO think that way.

Being not serious while saying something grim is not a globally understood culture either. It’s more common and acceptable in the Western world as a joke.

So… call it accessibility, but it’s just more approachable for everyone to just put an “/s”.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

Poe's law

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 18 points 5 hours ago

The problem with pretending to be a dumbass on the Internet, is it's almost impossible to outdo the professionals.

[–] L3dpen@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 hours ago

Reading comprehension is for people who paid attention in school. Nerds.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

This is a good question.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 243 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (18 children)

Ads will always be detectable because you cannot speed up or skip an ad like you can the rest of the video.

If they do make it so you can speed up or skip the ad sections of a video, mission accomplished.

If all else fails, I'd enjoy a plugin that just blanks the video and mutes the sound whenever an ad is playing. I'll enjoy the few seconds of quiet, and hopefully I can use that time to break out of the mentally unhealthy doom spiral that is the typical YouTube experience.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

i remember when i put a video at 2x speed the next ad i got was also at 2x speed lmao

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No you don't have to be able to detect it if you can't skip. Since they're injecting the stream directly every time you hit skip they move the counter and when you come back in it just continues to stream you the ad. Just let the time code go negative at the end of the video if you skipped.

All they have to do is not really care about minutes and seconds displaying correctly exactly if you're working around with fast forward. Alternately they could also just disable fast forward and rewind if they detect you're using it to abuse commercials.

I think Sooner or later, pretty much all blocking becomes a store the entire video with commercials and strip the commercials out with comskip end. If you're just storing the buffer off, and stripping it out privately there's not really a lot they can do about that.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I may not like it, but you do make an interesting technical argument.

I think it would still be detectable though because of buffering.

What you're saying assumes that videos are streamed frame-by-frame: "here's a frame", "okay, I watched that frame", "okay, here's the next frame".

With buffering videos will preload the next 30 seconds of video, and so if you pressed a button to skip ahead 10 seconds, that often happens instantly because the computer has already stored the next 30 seconds of video. Your plan to just pretend to skip ahead doesn't work in this case, because my computer can know whether or not it really did skip ahead, because of buffering.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 37 points 9 hours ago

always be detectable

Maybe with some content ID system… but you’ve just predicted their 2025 update which we might imagine would go something like this:

[–] Celestus@lemm.ee 72 points 15 hours ago

Yep. YouTube must include a manifest with each video to tell the player what time ranges are un-skippable. Baked in ads were doomed from the beginning 🤡

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