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He's basically turned the cars into a mobile MAGA hat
Back in 2013 it was my dream to own a Tesla and not have a gas car. I was able to do it in 2018 and now that it’s paid off I don’t want to hop into another car payment.
I feel a sense of betrayal in that I thought we were all in it to help transition to cleaner energy usage and whatnot but instead it’s another speculative investment vehicle that only exists to make a few people stupidly richer.
I just want companies to turn into things that make valuable products and aren’t only focused on “stock number go up”
Amen to all of that. I never did have the chance to buy one but that was my dream car for years, obviously until the recent betrayal.
But the larger point about companies making products - I feel like some serious reform needs to happen but I really have no idea where one would start. I do know that we need to be sure lawmakers aren't benefitting from the companies they're supposed to be policing, that'd be a massive start. But in the end, the free market as they sold it to us is a massive failure and gets worse every year and I just hope people realize that the 'socialism' they're demonizing is the thing that would most help make the economy more right for them.
You could get one of those "sorry I bought it before he showed his true colors" stickers
This vehicle will reportedly be purpose-built to function solely as a self-driving cab. As such, it will not contain an accelerator, brake pedals or a steering wheel, and will be hailed via a special Tesla app.
Taking "move fast and break things" literally. Can the cars actually self-drive outside of a perfect laboratory environment? I guess we'll find out because Elon Musk is the type of guy who tests in production.
Waymo(google) is already doing a full self driving taxi in San Francisco.
Edit: Well not quite full there is a support team of real humans that remote controls the cars when they get stuck because the car can't figure out a safe enough next move - mostly in parking lots.
As a fun bonus there was a small bug, the cars are programmed to give a honk when they see other cars driving towards them from the front or something and there's a parking lot where they all go during low activity times...but the waymo cars were just constantly honking at each other while trying to park. - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yvDuUCxvkO0
How long between when he announced the cyber truck and when it was actually available? And what about all the stuff he announced that still doesn't exist? Hyper loop, humanoid robots?
He's been ready to land people on Mars "in two years" since 2016
Maybe there's whole cities up there and nobody knows.
My understanding is that they haven't even completed any testing miles yet. This is going to be the equivalent of a concept car that you might see sometime in Musks rolling timeline.