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Everyone constantly down votes you but I appreciate being informed that Jill Stein sucks. 🤷🏻♂️
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Jill Stein doesn’t put in the efforts between presidential elections to promote her party or to get her candidates elected in local, state or federal elections.
She’s not for helping anyone besides herself and a majority of Muslim Americans realize this.
You just get that impression because the media isnt interested in her between elections. She continues having events and talks and doing political work.
How many people in her party are elected in local, state or federal governments?
You really cant be crusading against a party being elected and then try and complain that theyre not getting elected.
Jill Stein doesn’t put in the efforts between presidential elections to promote her party or to get her candidates elected in local, state or federal elections. She’s not for helping anyone besides herself and a majority of Muslim Americans realize this
This was my original comment, the one you responded to.
Yes, effort is put in. Effort that you and the DNC are fighting against on a daily basis. How much effort gets someone elected for the green party? Can you give me a number of speeches given, emails sent, flyers put up, that guarantees their candidate gets elected?
How many people in her party are elected in local, state or federal governments?
This question has an answer.
What is the number?
Nah we're talking about putting in effort. They can put in all the work in the world but they cant force anyone to vote for them.
Jill Stein doesn’t put in the efforts between presidential elections to promote her party or to get her candidates elected in local, state or federal elections. She’s not for helping anyone besides herself and a majority of Muslim Americans realize this.
This is the comment you replied to, because it seems like you’re a little confused.
You can’t build a party from the top up, you have start at the bottom, the foundation.
She hasn’t done that and she didn’t even run for president in 2020.
She does do that, you're just ignorant of the work they do. You're starting with some weird conclusion that putting in effort guarantees elections. The effort is put in but you and much larger parties with much larger budgets and legal teams are fighting against that effort.
Ok, so how many people in her party are elected in local, state or federal governments?
You’re starting with some weird conclusion that putting in effort guarantees elections
Without votes how are you a viable party?
Thats a great reason to vote for them
Down ballot maybe.
I'll allow this article to slide because the title says it all. See you tomorrow SB.
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1.34% of the American population, the third largest religion in the US behind Christianity and Judaism.
I'm also going to point out that voting based on what's happening to people who share your religion in a foreign country is a TERRIBLE idea. If you make that your voting priority, it will bite you in the face in other aspects of your life because someone will exploit you for their own ends. The same is pretty much true for any single issue voter.
We're all free to be stupid, but it probably won't end well.
So I've been thinking, if I was in these folks shoes, what should I be doing?
I think the Uncommitted movement nailed it on the head: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/19/harris-uncommitted-movement-declines-endorse
tldr - the stupid FPTP system in the US means we effectively are stuck between two candidates, GOP and Dem, and of the two, the GOP one would be much much worse. So without endorsing they still recommend voting for the Dem candidate for President - while also voting down the ballot for candidates who better represent their views (and might be able to make the future President listen or at least rein the President in - e.g. enough Dem House Reps might be able to table a future bill to increase arms sales to Israel).
The most useful thing individuals can do to change or enact specific policy is to get involved in party politics, because the party platforms are decided internally and either becoming a party delegate, or working to garner votes from delegates for particular policies actually works.
I feel like this is a part of what I said in the other comment on this post, about needing to build up from the grassroots. Agreed.
How about based on whats happening to people that dont share my religion? Because what is happening is so horrific it doesnt matter what group they belong to, it must be stopped.
When was the last time you posted about the other genocides going on? Do you even know which ones I'm talking about?
Or are you just following the social context around the Israel-Palestine conflict and ignoring the fact that there are multiple other major genocides occurring right now? One of them has had a few hundred thousand kids forcibly separated from their parents and sent to special boarding schools, the other is at almost a half million deaths, both dwarfing the scale of the Israeli-Palestine conflict by almost an order of magnitude.
How about them? Where's the university protests? Where's the demands for divestment? You haven't even made a single comment or post about any of them from what I can see.
Nah, this one is the fad genocide to be all upset about right now.
Ill bite, wikipedia has no idea what youre talking about either
Yes it does.
Its got 2 other ongoing genocides, neither of which with deaths anywhere near what youre talking about. One for Ukraine which Ive definitely commented on and condemned. And a different one also affecting muslims.
You must not have scrolled down far enough, there's one that's been going on for 20+ years in Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80%93present)
The forcibly separated kids one isn't even listed there, because China has done everything it can to scrub it from public knowledge, it's linked to an older one in there though. The Uyghurs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
The Muslim population in swings states is larger than the margin Biden won in 2020.
The Muslim population isn't a single voting bloc, and a good chunk are still voting Democrat.
On the flip side, the Jewish population is almost twice the size of the Muslim population, so pissing them off is probably worse.
It is indeed a very tough balancing act that needs to be done here.
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