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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

They do, one with them at the top

[–] wargreymon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

The fascists think they die happy.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 91 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I'm just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.

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[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only if I can use AI and cameras to follow police around, map them, and use pattern recognition to make sure they behave as well.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.

BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yeah my comment was sarcasm.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am aware, but sometimes my autism still demands I write it anyway. In my experience comments read by people can still inform them even if they have no idea who wrote them and the reason why. I just want to leave the world a better place than I found it.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I wish I could do the same with veganism :) Spreading love and equality.

But I just get an army of haters.

[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?

The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.

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[–] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Theyre already there

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's start by putting up cameras in all his houses.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago

I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said "these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen".

Your plan will work.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

1984 was not a manual

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 35 points 2 days ago

Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?

(No.)

[–] another_kbin_addict@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

While wearing a mask that'll fool AI on top of a ski mask beneath it.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Welcome to China

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.

Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/

Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/

And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.

A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).

Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 12 points 2 days ago

Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

they put that shit into water bottles... water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it's % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Like person of interest?

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Because they have undue power over our lives.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let's shove one down this guys' throat

[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".

Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...

Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.

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